Newsom eradicating sales of new gas powered cars by 2035 (Sacramento: how much, home)

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Mike930

I love small towns, but my wife is like you and likes the bigger cities. We have to find a place that’s in the middle, but there’s plenty of places that have a small town feel but close to a larger city.

Completely agree with this. Another limitation for my wife and I had been prevalence of jobs. We needed to live in a large metro area to have a lot of options (we're both in high tech). We were worried if we relocated somewhere for a job and something happened (layoff, not getting along with boss, looking for better opportunity) we'd be essentially stuck. I have colleagues in small/mid tier metros that have told me about this in their careers and it has limited their career mobility.

With COVID's onset, remote work has become a possibility. We're not ready to move permanently yet as we don't know if companies will go back to their old ways when all is said and done. Still, its something we we'll be keeping our eyes on over the next year. We're also not sure if we are ready to relocate full time or rather buy a vacation property near a lake or mountain town that we can stay at for long periods of time.

[509]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Well, considering that you live in Paradise, you should be well aware of the effects of climate change.

Bravo for Newsom in having some courage to improve our environment, unlike the failed leadership in Washington.

2035!!!!


Really, we have less than SEVEN years left according to the Democrats.


Newsome refuses to implement 55 MPH which will reduce emissions by 20% TOMORROW....but he is OK with waiting until 2035!!!


Do you think that all this is a scam run by Newsome??

[BurntCoffey]

Originally Posted by ZeApelido

By then electric vehicles will be seen as vastly superior in many use cases anyways, and already be dominating sales.

That's great, so why do we need the government to tell us what we can and cannot buy?

I've no doubt the simplicity of EVs vs. ICEs coupled with advanced battery technology will allow them a competitive advantage by then. If the infrastructure is in place there's no need for this silly power-tripping legislation. But Gavin's never missed a chance to snag the spotlight so this is simply more of the same.

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

I think I would have trouble relating with people if most of those around me were highly religious, far right leaning ideologs. Which brings me back to my earlier question, where is this utopia?

Unless you are in a small town where most everyone is over 60, politics and religion will have minimal impact unless you push it. I have lived in both hard right and hard left and both with religions and ... never a problem. I talk with my neighbors and no problem. The ones who push it have the problem and that is a rarity in most places, well OK maybe the Bay Area and SF..

[Bill the Butcher]

Not surprised at all. The writing has been on the wall for years now. Good thing Tesla just announced the production of a $25,000 model ford ale in 2022.

I think long term electric makes sense. But make no mistake there will be challenges in achieving this. On the bright side we should have low unemployment with all the infrastructure that will need to be built up.

I’m sure their will be hefty fees tied to registration as well. Otherwise what would prevent people from buying new or even 2-3 year old ICE vehicles in other states and bringing them here.

Does electric work better with autonomous driving over ICE vehicles with autonomous driving abilities? If so that would really be a large reason as well to go all electric.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Racer46

Unless you are in a small town where most everyone is over 60, politics and religion will have minimal impact unless you push it. I have lived in both hard right and hard left and both with religions and ... never a problem. I talk with my neighbors and no problem. The ones who push it have the problem and that is a rarity in most places, well OK maybe the Bay Area and SF..

I disagree. I grew up in a small town, so can speak from experience. Yes, people there are generally nicer to your face and you can absolutely engage in small talk without getting into politics. However, most of the social scene revolves around churches. If you're not a member of the church, you are always somewhat of an outsider.

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

I disagree. I grew up in a small town, so can speak from experience. Yes, people there are generally nicer to your face and you can absolutely engage in small talk without getting into politics. However, most of the social scene revolves around churches. If you're not a member of the church, you are always somewhat of an outsider.

I lived in a small rural town in the heart of the Bible, actually 2 such towns, and never had a problem. I am sure there are such, but a bigger city like Austin, Dallas, Raleigh, Atlanta (even the suburbs) and others their size is totally different. Now a 500 to 2000 people town in Alabama may be a different case.

[Fastphilly]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

So, you're against fighting climate change because it doesn't benefit you personally? Or is it because you don't care about the planet you're leaving for your grandchildren?

This takes a global effort. Take a trip to India and China. You can look directly at the sun at high noon. You don’t think the pollution they create is encircling the Earth? Another pipe dream mandate.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Fastphilly

This takes a global effort. Take a trip to India and China. You can look directly at the sun at high noon. You don’t think the pollution they create is encircling the Earth? Another pipe dream mandate.

So, if others are jumping off a cliff, we should follow suit? Showing global leadership does change how others behave. China is moving towards a more renewable energy based economy. Sure, they have a long way to go (as do we), but everyone needs to start somewhere.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Racer46

I lived in a small rural town in the heart of the Bible, actually 2 such towns, and never had a problem. I am sure there are such, but a bigger city like Austin, Dallas, Raleigh, Atlanta (even the suburbs) and others their size is totally different. Now a 500 to 2000 people town in Alabama may be a different case.

Sure, agreed about mid / large sized cities, as you've mentioned. But, I wouldn't exactly call any of those small towns.