What state are you leaving for? (salary, cost of living, budget)

[MechAndy]

We are way up on the Northern Olympic Peninsula in Washington State.
We are also in Danville California.

Surprisingly our area on the Oly Pen is warmer in the winter than our spot in Danville.
I work an odd shift in CA.
I can’t count the number of times that our CA house has freezing temps in the winter.
It is not uncommon to hit the 20 degrees range.
We have several days when we are in the teens.
There is warmer winter weather for us up north.

I have family in San Ramon Ca.
It is the town just south of Danville and their weather is nicer by far because of the wind from Crow Canyon.
We don’t have wind where we live in Danville unless we get a freak wind storm.
We are on the very west slope of Diablo so with out wind we get freezing temps and hot temps because we are lacking in breeze at our location.

When it snows on Mt. Diablo we are usually in the 20’s and can even get into the teens a couple times each year.
Never seen those low temps in Washington but we can get snow there a couple times each year.
I’ve never had snow on our Ca property and I’ve been there 35 years but it can get as cold as heck.

I leave for work just after 4:00 am in Danville to go to work.
It can be as cold a sin sometimes.
Not so much in Washington but that is because we are on the water with a slight salt water breeze.
Our summer temps in Washington rarely go over 80 degrees.
Non of this 105 degree constant heat wave temps I have here on Diablo.
That is a deal breaker for me at this time in my life.

I’m leaving because of the weather, traffic, scenery and I personally find the people nicer in Washington.
I don’t care about much else.
Those items are enough for me.

All the best.
Andy.

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by Keknoob

Why do people that don't live in California feel the need to comment on the state?

Perhaps they know more about the state than you do.

[Igor Blevin]

Originally Posted by MechAndy

We are way up on the Northern Olympic Peninsula in Washington State.
We are also in Danville California.

Surprisingly our area on the Oly Pen is warmer in the winter than our spot in Danville.
I work an odd shift in CA.
I can’t count the number of times that our CA house has freezing temps in the winter.
It is not uncommon to hit the 20 degrees range.
We have several days when we are in the teens.
There is warmer winter weather for us up north.

I have family in San Ramon Ca.
It is the town just south of Danville and their weather is nicer by far because of the wind from Crow Canyon.
We don’t have wind where we live in Danville unless we get a freak wind storm.
We are on the very west slope of Diablo so with out wind we get freezing temps and hot temps because we are lacking in breeze at our location.

When it snows on Mt. Diablo we are usually in the 20’s and can even get into the teens a couple times each year.
Never seen those low temps in Washington but we can get snow there a couple times each year.
I’ve never had snow on our Ca property and I’ve been there 35 years but it can get as cold as heck.

I leave for work just after 4:00 am in Danville to go to work.
It can be as cold a sin sometimes.
Not so much in Washington but that is because we are on the water with a slight salt water breeze.
Our summer temps in Washington rarely go over 80 degrees.
Non of this 105 degree constant heat wave temps I have here on Diablo.
That is a deal breaker for me at this time in my life.

I’m leaving because of the weather, traffic, scenery and I personally find the people nicer in Washington.
I don’t care about much else.
Those items are enough for me.

All the best.
Andy.

What I have noticed about winter temperatures in Washington state vs. California is not so much the difference in nighttime low but in daytime highs. The nighttime lows are about the same as California's. Where the big difference is, the daytime highs are about 10 degrees lower than California's, so you don't ever get the chill off you in the daytime. When it is 65 at dinner time in California, it is going to be about 55 at dinner time in Washington.

Assuming sea levelish elevations of 0 to a few hundred feet. Obviously, if you live in the thin air of the mountains, all bets are off.

[Keknoob]

Originally Posted by aslowdodge

Perhaps they know more about the state than you do.

Is that right? Do you claim to know more about the state than I do?

[BobPhipps]

Originally Posted by Keknoob

I've lived in 2 other states outside of California. I don't see the purpose of going to those forums and *#@@$ing all over their state about the things I disagree with. Like, honestly, who cares what some loser outsider that doesn't even lives in your state thinks? NOBODY. Obviously they didn't love it there or they wouldn't have left. 99% of the time it's going to be sour grapes.

Nope, not at all. Why so defensive? Many people that live in high COL areas at some point look to move away (often for retirement). The topic is very relevant as are the viewpoints of people that lived here and left. It's nice for many of us to see some comparisons. If it bothers you, don't read it.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by Keknoob

I've lived in 2 other states outside of California. I don't see the purpose of going to those forums and *#@@$ing all over their state about the things I disagree with.Like, honestly, who cares what some loser outsider that doesn't even lives in your state thinks? NOBODY. Obviously they didn't love it there or they wouldn't have left 99% of the time it's going to be sour grapes.

Wrong.

You do.

If you truly didn’t care, then you’d ignore/not pay any attention to the comment....something you haven’t been able to do .

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by Racer46

Plus TN as an example or NC, GA, Virginia have beautiful mountains, streams, lakes and are close to beaches that are not cold like WA and have a LOT to do, so not sure why the word "bored" was used. Even a ton of ethnic restaurants. I have family in NC and did in TN and have been to both many times. not boring at all unless maybe compared to So California with beaches, mountains, deserts and a lot of amenities. Mind you also a hundred times worse traffic and lack of parking in So California.

The only beach I’ve walked on at this time of year in WA State is Alki, and I don’t remember being cold.

About a week and a half ago I was walking on the beach on Tybee Island (GA), and I definitely felt the cold weather (it was moderately windy). I was wearing a thick t-shirt, a thick wick away long sleeve hoodie over that, and a ‘shiny style’ (not matte finish/cotton) college football hoodie over that with a wick away baseball style Adidas cap and both hoodies pulled up over that and walking shorts with long thick sweatpants over them, socks, and walking shoes.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by fairweathergolfer

Wonderfully and thoughtfully put Igor Blevin. Although I know there are still many of the latter type of Libertarians that still live in California and have no interest in leaving or giving up their fight to return the state to its former freedoms as well. . They're not fleeing anywhere.

I know a number of men who would like to leave (and about 40% of those are liberal) but they don’t seriously entertain doing so for one reason.....their wives don’t want to leave.

I’m not married, but I’m still aware of “happy wife, happy life’.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by RMESMH

I know a number of men who would like to leave (and about 40% of those are liberal) but they don’t seriously entertain doing so for one reason.....their wives don’t want to leave.

I’m not married, but I’m still aware of “happy wife, happy life’.

You’re aware then of “no wife, happy life”, I assume. As am I.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Igor Blevin

What I have noticed about winter temperatures in Washington state vs. California is not so much the difference in nighttime low but in daytime highs. The nighttime lows are about the same as California's. Where the big difference is, the daytime highs are about 10 degrees lower than California's, so you don't ever get the chill off you in the daytime. When it is 65 at dinner time in California, it is going to be about 55 at dinner time in Washington.

Assuming sea levelish elevations of 0 to a few hundred feet. Obviously, if you live in the thin air of the mountains, all bets are off.

Also, if you're in Eastern Washington, the daytime temps are typically much lower as well, even at lower elevation.

Then again, with global warming, Washington may be the new California in terms of ideal climate as we become too hot and dry. Something to consider long-term.