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Old 06-04-2021, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Tijuana Exurbs
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Every 5th or 6th year, the state gets a super rainfall year that fills up the reservoirs and then some. In years like that, the excess water is truly flushed out to sea. It's not even helping to maintain habitat.

What the state needs is an off-river storage reservoir that can be filled during the super-flush years, tapped during the tail end of the drier years, and allowed to run dry because it's not there to be a permanent reservoir.
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Old 06-04-2021, 06:59 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Every 5th or 6th year, the state gets a super rainfall year that fills up the reservoirs and then some. In years like that, the excess water is truly flushed out to sea. It's not even helping to maintain habitat.

What the state needs is an off-river storage reservoir that can be filled during the super-flush years, tapped during the tail end of the drier years, and allowed to run dry because it's not there to be a permanent reservoir.
What the state needs is fewer people … and fewer almond farms.
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Old 06-04-2021, 07:02 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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I can't believe how short-sighted CA is, or planning for the future. There should have been a De-Sal plant built every 5 years, 40 years ago, and to date, just one, in Cardiff supply 7% of San Diego's water needs.

Water thirsty Israel has 4 of them.

It's been predicted that future wars will be fought over water. It's coming!

When it comes to that point, I foresee a water war with Canada, which has too much water.

If Canada denies us the benefits of the NAWAP project, creating a 100 mile long reservoir in British Columbia, to pipe water all the way down to Tijuana, I smell war! Or? A trade! Give Canada some of our Aleutian islands for the use of their excess water.-

The U.S. has a way of waiting for a crisis for it to act. Why wait that long!!!
What CA needs is fewer people … and fewer almonds farms.

Homo sapiens have this weird habit of creating complex problem after complex problem to solve problems that don’t need to exist in the first place.
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Old 06-04-2021, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Japan is the same size as CA and they have 100 million people. Granted, it's not deserty in Japan.

When Israel was created, skeptics were saying that given the lack of water in Israel, it wouldn't be able to support more than a half million people. And? What's the population of Israel today and still growing? 13 million or so?

Israelites are the biggest water conservers on the planet. You can't even put a pail on your roof to catch rainfall without a city permit. Children are indoctrinated in school about how precious water is and how to conserve it. You take shower, you spray the water on, turn the water off, wash yourself, then rinse.

Agriculturally, there's no waste of water at all. Drip system only.

Just think of all the water wasted in the Imperial Valley alone!
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Old 06-04-2021, 09:12 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Japan is the same size as CA and they have 100 million people. Granted, it's not deserty in Japan.

When Israel was created, skeptics were saying that given the lack of water in Israel, it wouldn't be able to support more than a half million people. And? What's the population of Israel today and still growing? 13 million or so?

Israelites are the biggest water conservers on the planet. You can't even put a pail on your roof to catch rainfall without a city permit. Children are indoctrinated in school about how precious water is and how to conserve it. You take shower, you spray the water on, turn the water off, wash yourself, then rinse.

Agriculturally, there's no waste of water at all. Drip system only.

Just think of all the water wasted in the Imperial Valley alone!
Yeah. I know all of what you describe, friend. And NONE of it sounds even one slight bit good. Just because a person CAN eat 3 lemon meringue pies and three steak dinners and a stack of Ihop pancakes everyday … doesn’t make it a good idea … or one with much of a long future. Know what I mean?

Can’t grasp for the life of me why the metric for humanity’s success on this finite planet should be endless population growth and abuse of natural resources for profit (i.e. almond production).
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Old 06-04-2021, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Maybe we should ask the Resnick's to pay to build some desal plants, they most certainly could afford it:

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Stewart Resnick, 81, doesn’t entirely know how much land he owns, but his estimate of 180,000 acres — of which 121,000 are irrigated — translates into 281 square miles. By area, that’s almost six San Franciscos and the equivalent of more than half of Marin County. To produce his almonds, pistachios, citrus, and other crops, Resnick uses more than 400,000 acre-feet of water, which represents more than two-thirds the annual consumption of the City of Angels (587,000 acre-feet).

As the owner of 15 million trees, Resnick is the largest single water user in the Western United States... California Sunday reports that there exists an “off-the-books pipeline that Stewart Resnick has built to keep his trees from dying. The water is being taken from unsuspecting farmers in an irrigation district in Tulare County more than 40 miles away.”
https://www.sfweekly.com/dining/one-...-water-as-l-a/
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Old 06-04-2021, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Tijuana Exurbs
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What the state needs is fewer people … and fewer almond farms.
The state has two, mutually exclusive goals, growing the population and no increase in the water storage capacity.
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Old 06-04-2021, 11:42 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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The state has two, mutually exclusive goals, growing the population and no increase in the water storage capacity.
And we don’t need either one of them
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Old 06-06-2021, 07:05 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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What CA needs is fewer people … and fewer almonds farms.

Homo sapiens have this weird habit of creating complex problem after complex problem to solve problems that don’t need to exist in the first place.
But this isn’t going to happen, so it’s not a real solution
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Old 06-06-2021, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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https://krcrtv.com/news/local/glenn-...ught-emergency

Glenn country reports that some wells are drying up. Maybe (imo) due to larger farmers taking more.
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