06-27-2016, 08:54 AM
Location: Trona, California
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You're such a clown Montclairion, the pretend Oakland guy, aka another FR alias. I like how you pretended to be neutral when you first "joined" and started posting. But in reality, you were fully on the side of leaking the tree locations and damaging the root systems as much as possible. Your personal claims about the ferns are meaningless in comparison to the research and facts published by Mr. Vaden, Mr. Sillett, and the rest of the big-wigs. You don't know what you are talking about.
06-27-2016, 11:02 AM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Ancient One, your tact and brilliance and desire for the truth never cease to amaze me.
06-27-2016, 08:17 PM
Location: Trona, California
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Montclairion, the pretend Oakland guy, aka FR, you were never neutral. You just pretended to be to bait people into a discussion. Then you tried to slam Mr. Vaden and others with your "logic" but only proceeded in embarrassing yourself in an epic fail.
06-28-2016, 03:54 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
OldManWinter
Montclairion, the pretend Oakland guy, aka FR, you were never neutral. You just pretended to be to bait people into a discussion. Then you tried to slam Mr. Vaden and others with your "logic" but only proceeded in embarrassing yourself in an epic fail.
Steve, I certainly didn't intend to slam Mario. I just don't agree with his logic or his conclusions, regardless of who he rubs shoulders with. Clearly he's an excellent photographer and obviously he has a deep concern for the environment, though I don't buy into the treasure hunt/preservationist/activist mindset. Common sense should suffice.
I think I've come up with a solution. Here is a list of objectives to help preserve the trees for future generations.
1) Eliminate photography and videography within a 100 yard radius of all known famous trees.
2) Disallow within the immediate vicinity of all the famous trees all scientific tools and equipment designed for measuring height (including tape measures), as well as instruments for measuring moisture, traffic, and soil compaction.
3) Keep gung-ho tree-climbing scientists, researchers and self-proclaimed tree experts off the trees.
4) Eliminate global warming.
Yeah, that should about do it.
Last edited by Montclairion; 06-28-2016 at 04:19 PM ..
06-28-2016, 08:58 PM
Location: Trona, California
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Montclairion you are a total joke. Steve Sillett has better things to do than expose you as yet another alias and alter ego of FR.
06-28-2016, 09:38 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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I wasn't referring to Steve Sillett; I was referring to Steve Hall.
06-28-2016, 11:02 PM
Location: Trona, California
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How curiously odd that you are trying to figure out the identity of OldManWinter, yet you put down others who want to figure out the identity of FR. Quite a double standard. That being the case, I will not sit here and humour you with figuring out the identity of OldManWinter by eliminating various names that you might propose while making wild guesses.
06-28-2016, 11:12 PM
Location: Trona, California
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Montclairion tried to get the thread off-topic. Let's bring it back on-topic. Who is behind FR? Is it Thomas Davidson from Ventura? Is it a certain lawyer from Southern California? Is it another person who opened a mailbox in the name of Thomas Davidson as an alias? Is it Yinghai? Let's keep working on this y'all.
06-29-2016, 01:17 AM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
OldManWinter
How curiously odd that you are trying to figure out the identity of OldManWinter, yet you put down others who want to figure out the identity of FR. Quite a double standard. That being the case, I will not sit here and humour you with figuring out the identity of OldManWinter by eliminating various names that you might propose while making wild guesses.
Don't worry, Steve, we're still on topic. And the identity of FR is old news. It's not even news really - I already posted the answer.
But it is nice to confirm who the Ancient One really is. What's interesting is that you're not denying that you're Steve Hall, which apparently confirms you are. Nothing to be ashamed about; you have a nice site. And I see you've even spent some time with Mario and Mark - cool. I especially like the pic of you and Taylor Swift. I'm jealous really.
You didn't answer my other question either... What's your rate for a hiking adventure to Helios? Curious.
Last edited by Montclairion; 06-29-2016 at 02:07 AM ..
06-29-2016, 01:27 AM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Wow, Steve, that was quick, I didn't intend to fluster you. Yet in the time since my earlier post you apparently deleted a comments section from your website which included entries from Mario and Mark. A bit odd - don't you think? Brings to mind Hillary erasing her server's hard drive. Maybe it would be easier to nix the entire section about your Famous Redwood exploits.
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Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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