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Old 03-28-2009, 07:54 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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Here's the breakdown by counties: California propositions: Proposition 8, county-by-county map, margin of victory - Los Angeles Times

San Diego gave Obama a big win in your county.
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Old 03-28-2009, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Both areas are relatively conservative, but there are plenty of libs to go around..

Nita
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Old 03-29-2009, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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That is a fluke, and certainly wasn't the case for younger generations. Its the opposite for young generations.
Please. Come to SDSU - - I'll show you the vast majority of my students who were Obama supporters. North County does not equal San Diego!
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Old 04-01-2009, 04:16 AM
 
Location: San Diego A.K.A "D.A.Y.G.O City"
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I'm a Lib and live in East County of San Diego, (talk about intolerant country folk) now that is scary for a California standard, since basically of all El Cajon, Klantee, Lakeside are hardcore conservative backward rednecks, that believe waiving the American flag, Nascar, NHRA Racing, White culture /lifted trucks, guns and glory are the only ways to heaven after Jesus

It's like small form of Alabama out here, it's freakin crazy scary!!!!!
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Old 04-01-2009, 04:27 AM
 
Location: San Diego A.K.A "D.A.Y.G.O City"
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I think the older neighborhoods of OC are more liberal and racially diverse compared to SD County. SD's biggest problem is it's military bases (no offense). Because the majority of all Marines, Army, share the same political views, which is conservative. Until these bases shut down for whatever reasons, SD County will always hold onto it's Republican status, even though SD voted for Obama, the County overall barely voted for him, even with the whole Obama fever going on, you still had a huge percentage of the population that went for McShame. As time goes on, SD will turn more Democratic I hope, and people here will have more compassion for the poor and middle class, and not just for the rich old retires, like they need anymore tax breaks PLEASE
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I think the older neighborhoods of OC are more liberal and racially diverse compared to SD County. SD's biggest problem is it's military bases (no offense). Because the majority of all Marines, Army, share the same political views, which is conservative. Until these bases shut down for whatever reasons, SD County will always hold onto it's Republican status, even though SD voted for Obama, the County overall barely voted for him, even with the whole Obama fever going on, you still had a huge percentage of the population that went for McShame. As time goes on, SD will turn more Democratic I hope, and people here will have more compassion for the poor and middle class, and not just for the rich old retires, like they need anymore tax breaks PLEASE
I can't speak for the active duty and retired military around SD, but having family in the DC area and knowing a great deal of servicemen as a result, I don't think they're monolithic in their political leanings. I'd say they lean conservative more than US society as a whole, and you'll find very, very few whackjob lifestyle liberals (of the stereotypical California liberal variety) in the military, but there are liberals in the military, especially in those branches which have a higher level of education. Many people would be surprised how liberal Special Forces members tend to be.

As for the lower ranked enlisted men and women, you have more of a point, because a disproportionate number of them come from conservative areas of the South, Midwest, and West (inland CA included).

Don't think a large number of bases necessarily means that a region is locked into the GOP ; the Bay Area had large numbers of military bases until the base closings under Bush Sr. and Clinton, and I wouldn't characterize the Bay Area of the '80s as strongly Republican. McCain's background did help him in SD, though, even though he lost overall ; a Republican nominee who'd never served like Romney, Giuliani, or Huckabee would've done worse. If Obama had served in the military (even in JAG) then he'd have had an overwhelming victory in SD rather than a narrow victory.
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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How much longer are we going to have to listen to you try to perpetuate this BS myth that Orange County is more liberal than San Diego County?? Stop making all of SD County out to be like your little right wing corner of NORTH COUNTY. You present an extremely narrow, close minded view on life in SD and you look for BS anecdotal evidence to support it when all of the statistics and REAL evidence shows the opposite of what you claim.

I've lived in the Bay Area, you have NOT, and Orange County is pretty much the OPPOSITE of what most of the Bay Area is like.

Getting of the internet and into the real also might help give you some perspective b/c you seem to treat the internet as reality when it is anything but that.

Your rants are totally off base and the majority of people as well as statistics do not support your point of view that OC is more liberal, SD is more moderate overall than OC.

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Old 04-01-2009, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I'm a Lib and live in East County of San Diego, (talk about intolerant country folk) now that is scary for a California standard, since basically of all El Cajon, Klantee, Lakeside are hardcore conservative backward rednecks, that believe waiving the American flag, Nascar, NHRA Racing, White culture /lifted trucks, guns and glory are the only ways to heaven after Jesus

It's like small form of Alabama out here, it's freakin crazy scary!!!!!
Sounds like East County is still like Texas but closer to the Pacific (and I don't mean Austin!) I haven't been out that way in awhile but from how you describe it, seems like very little has changed.

TBF, NHRA racing used to be very big in virtually all parts of California (with the possible exception of San Francisco) whether conservative or liberal.
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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Oceanside is not San Diego.
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Old 04-01-2009, 04:18 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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A close study of the voting data per the LA Times graphs show a very large blue circle over San Diego county. The military did, indeed vote for Obama & pushed the county into the Democratic party for the first time in a long time, I suspect. There is a very small red circle over Orange county to denote that Obama came close to winning there also

Those yahoos in east San Diego are a dying breed [elderly white protestants w/ only high school education] signaling essentially the end of the GOP in California as we have know it. Really breaks me up
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