Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-05-2009, 11:29 PM
 
28,115 posts, read 63,672,505 times
Reputation: 23268

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by notmeofficer View Post


Im not sure what you were referencing about the car having Or and Cali plates.. the law only allows a vehicle to display one states plates at a time... even the decorative ones are illegal.. see 5200/5204 cvc
I'll try to find out... if I ever see one again.

At one time there was an outfit out of Carson City Nevada back in the 1960's that was running hay trucks with California and Nevada Plates... I always thought it strange and that it must have something to do with making sure each State collected it's share of over the road taxes.

Oregon seems to attract retired folks... know a family that sold their home in CA and retired to OR... they don't own any property... just a 400k motor home that they live in year round... it has OR plates... and they are physically in OR a couple months every year... but they also winter in Florida and Summer in Colorado with a visit to the Grand kids in San Diego...

Not sure how they work out all the details of Residency when they are not in any one place 6 months of the year?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-06-2009, 01:45 PM
 
341 posts, read 689,058 times
Reputation: 148
If you own a home in one state and one in Ca. do you think that you can have 2 vehicles one registered in each state that you use primarily in the state it is registered in but that is used for travel back and forth.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-06-2009, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
42,850 posts, read 26,275,432 times
Reputation: 34058
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultrarunner View Post
One thing that I know for certain is CA if very aggressive when it comes to collecting revenue...

I have quite a few Law Enforcement friends that retired to Nevada, Oregon and Idaho... they have no ties to CA except for their pension checks and CA has been extremely aggressive to the point of threatening to withhold a portion for taxes...

I think there was a court decision that put a stop to it and NV refused to cooperate...
I'm not following this- I am retired law enforcement from Calif. I live in Nevada & my pension is not subject to Calif. income tax, I am not sure what you mean about NV not cooperating?

Public Law 104-95, enacted in 1996, prohibited states from taxing the retirement income of nonresidents.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-06-2009, 10:48 PM
 
28,115 posts, read 63,672,505 times
Reputation: 23268
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2sleepy View Post
I'm not following this- I am retired law enforcement from Calif. I live in Nevada & my pension is not subject to Calif. income tax, I am not sure what you mean about NV not cooperating?

Public Law 104-95, enacted in 1996, prohibited states from taxing the retirement income of nonresidents.
Two very good family friends retired from the San Leandro CA police department in the early 90's... both eventually moved to Nevada... one Incline Village and the other near Gardnerville...

I remember both complaining that the State of CA was trying to collect taxes even though they were no longer CA residents and CA was basing it by claiming the pension was earned in CA and therefore CA had a right to tax it...

Nevada was having no part of it and later a law was passed...

My point is CA is very aggressive and if there would have been a way... CA would have collected...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2009, 01:43 AM
 
4,875 posts, read 10,072,540 times
Reputation: 1993
I would still like to know what is meant by "liberalism" in the poster's initial post (i.e. what policies/things are negative for him/her?)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2009, 04:32 AM
 
28,115 posts, read 63,672,505 times
Reputation: 23268
I'm guessing the OP finds a correlation between Liberalism and High Taxes
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
15,946 posts, read 12,287,130 times
Reputation: 16109
Quote:
Originally Posted by FresnoFacts View Post
Its called responsibility to society. It seems to be something the WWII generation showed and many members of later generations have forgotten.

I curse my state and federal taxes every year. And I definitely do not agree with everything that is done with them.

But if I want to be a part of society I feel I have to pay my share, even if I don't think its fair.

I'll be "responsible to society" when the government starts actually being our representatives, instead of doing whatever they want. They opened the borders and let all them people flood in and gave them free education and medical care just out of spite towards "conservatives" and now they have to deal with the fact they are out of money.

That's what you get when you just start doing things based on feelings without actually thinking it through to see if it would work long term. This problem is not exclusive to California either, the reactionary emotional government policy is something that has affected the federal government in a big way as well, and thus now the federal government is headed towards insolvency, with the national debt going up 2 trillion, from 9.3 trillion, to 11.3 trillion, in just one year. It's not just a liberal thing, either. Republicans pandered to people's emotions to start the war in Iraq and keep us in there for years. Representatives who sacrifice the long term health of the nation for short term gain, that's what we have had all these years.... riding the wave of easy credit, mortgaging our future for benefits now, and it's going to come back to bite us all.

Paying illegals to come in and get free health care and education is not being 'responsible towards society'... paying people to not work for years on end is not being responsible towards society.. paying women for having children is not being responsible towards society... the state in which I live has a relatively small government with very little in the way of welfare programs and everything runs smoothly, the unemployment rate is still fairly low, and crime is extremely low.. government does not create prosperity, it only benefits from it through sucking away people's money into a black hole of useless service sector and paper pushing jobs, only doing one thing, getting bigger and bigger, more intrusive and larger by the year.. it never shrinks. This is supposed to be "progress" but really the progress came from society, government just came along for the ride.

Last edited by sholomar; 06-08-2009 at 08:34 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-08-2009, 03:28 PM
 
4,875 posts, read 10,072,540 times
Reputation: 1993
1. Remember that the tenant of representative democracy is that the citizens do not have *direct* control of the government. In the founding days of the U.S. the federalists DID NOT trust the common people, fearing that they would form "mob rule." Their influence meant that ultimately the ruler of the U.S. is the Constitution, a document. Keep in mind that the politicians sometimes, but not always doing directly what the people want may be a good thing.
2. What do you mean by "open the borders"? Those vague words could refer to several policy decisions.
3. In the 1980s Plyler v. Doe decision the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that illegal immigrant children cannot be deprived of their education. This is not a matter open to public policy.
4. "Free health care" for illegals is curtailed in many jurisdictions. Some, like Dallas's Parkland Hospital, give health care no matter what legal status, no questions asked. Others, like Fort Worth's Tarrant County Hospital, only give emergency health care to illegals. All jurisdictions are obligated to give emergency health care to anyone, and this will not change. snopes.com: Parkland Memorial Hospital and Illegal Immigrants
5. Regarding the national debt, are the figures adjusted for inflation? How much is it increasing? Or is it decreasing?
6. You said: "paying women for having children is not being responsible towards society" - The federal welfare laws were changed in 1996, making what you described much less commonplace on the federal level.
7. You said: "government does not create prosperity, it only benefits from it through sucking away people's money into a black hole of useless service sector and paper pushing jobs, only doing one thing, getting bigger and bigger, more intrusive and larger by the year" - I find this a very simplistic assessment. You need to clarify what you mean by "government"? Do you mean "the governments that are overbloated by beauracracy?" Do you mean "the governments which are not friendly for businesses because they tax so much that nobody is relocating there?" - Surely a government can expand its focus and still be lean and efficiently run, right?

Quote:
Originally Posted by stockwiz View Post
I'll be "responsible to society" when the government starts actually being our representatives, instead of doing whatever they want. They opened the borders and let all them people flood in and gave them free education and medical care just out of spite towards "conservatives" and now they have to deal with the fact they are out of money.

That's what you get when you just start doing things based on feelings without actually thinking it through to see if it would work long term. This problem is not exclusive to California either, the reactionary emotional government policy is something that has affected the federal government in a big way as well, and thus now the federal government is headed towards insolvency, with the national debt going up 2 trillion, from 9.3 trillion, to 11.3 trillion, in just one year. It's not just a liberal thing, either. Republicans pandered to people's emotions to start the war in Iraq and keep us in there for years. Representatives who sacrifice the long term health of the nation for short term gain, that's what we have had all these years.... riding the wave of easy credit, mortgaging our future for benefits now, and it's going to come back to bite us all.

Paying illegals to come in and get free health care and education is not being 'responsible towards society'... paying people to not work for years on end is not being responsible towards society.. paying women for having children is not being responsible towards society... the state in which I live has a relatively small government with very little in the way of welfare programs and everything runs smoothly, the unemployment rate is still fairly low, and crime is extremely low.. government does not create prosperity, it only benefits from it through sucking away people's money into a black hole of useless service sector and paper pushing jobs, only doing one thing, getting bigger and bigger, more intrusive and larger by the year.. it never shrinks. This is supposed to be "progress" but really the progress came from society, government just came along for the ride.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 12:19 PM
 
Location: El Dorado Hills, CA
433 posts, read 1,619,184 times
Reputation: 206
lol at everyone defending California's absurb tax rates. This is what California gets for creating one of the most un-friendly states for running a business. My dad has a small-medium size construction company and he has contemplated moving it to Reno because CA bends him over on a daily basis. Go for it my man, more power to you!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-09-2009, 01:22 PM
 
1,687 posts, read 6,073,729 times
Reputation: 830
Nevada, like Oregon, is currently looking at big increases in business taxes.

With the housing bust and a big drop in casino revenues Nevada had to find someone to pay. I believe Nevada saw something like a 40% drop in government revenues.

So Nevada's new budget calls for increased payroll taxes, increased sales taxes, and a doubling of the business license fee. They also increased vehicle registration fees and hotel room taxes (increased it to 13%).

The Nevada Legislature passed their current budget with some cuts and some tax increases.

But that budget also assumes the Nevada economy has hit bottom and will fully recover in the next 2 years.

If their economy doesn't recover over the next 2 years it could get messy there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:14 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top