Does Southern Cali. have Coconut palms? (Los Angeles, San Diego: rental, landscaping, live in)

[Ponypenny]

Great information on the Coconut Palm. It looks like it grows well in the US only in Florida, North Carolina, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands and Hawaii. PLANTS Profile for Cocos nucifera (coconut palm) | USDA PLANTS

[Fontucky]

Wonder why it skipped GA and SC?

[blauskies]

Originally Posted by Ponypenny

Great information on the Coconut Palm. It looks like it grows well in the US only in Florida, North Carolina, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands and Hawaii. PLANTS Profile for Cocos nucifera (coconut palm) | USDA PLANTS

I never seen any in Coconut Palm's in North Carolina, but they often plant palm trees (temporary during summer) in the beach as far north as Ocean City, MD.

[Chelito23]

I saw what seems to me to be the farthest northwest surviving coconut palm without protection (aside from the heavily protected ones in southern coastal cal) and it is located in Golfo de Santa Clara, Sonora. This is a small village near the mouth of the Colorado River, on the border of Baja and Sonora, about 60 miles due south of Yuma.

This coconut palm is about 2 stories tall-using the crown to count as the second story in height...and is not common in the area. It seems to be a random palm someone planted and from what I can tell, no one else seems to have one growing in their yards in the town. But this one is surviving nonetheless...undoubtedly protected from the extreme desert heat due to the Sea of Cortez...which likely keeps temps just above freezing in the winter as well. Minimal survival skills met. And of course it is watered as are most trees in that area.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

Not enough humidity here for coconut palms.

It's not the humidity. It's that it isn't warm enough.

[vinnyvince]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Do you have some sort of vested interest in this or something? We didn't create the different climate out here. California's climate is simply too cold for coconut palms. No amount of trying will change that.

you should be more positive just because oakland ca is too cold for them doesnt mean southern cali wont have a slim chance

[vinnyvince]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

That doesn't prove anything. That one in Newport is in a special area for it. Up against a sunny wall where the ambient temperature is 10 to 15 degrees hotter than 12 feet away from it. Those conditions will not exist in most places.

Buddy your putting your foot in your mouth. It doesnt matter the fact is Its growing out in the open enough said

[puerco]

It's actually not true that coconut palms only grow in wet climates. The first time that I saw a coconut palm was in Guaymas, Mexico - which is a desert. I think temperature has more of an effect than humidity.

[greenthumbdave]

In south florida coconut trees are very easy to grow to maturity, I have 8 that are over 40 feet tall in 10 years and bearing heavy coconuts. I think growing breadfruit here is similar to people trying to grow coconut palms in southern california, the climate is really not suitable for good growth but we try.
My breadfruit is 15 feet high but never any breadfruits, not like the ones I saw in the bahamas or hawaii.
Good luck

[L.A.-Mex]

Originally Posted by puerco

It's actually not true that coconut palms only grow in wet climates. The first time that I saw a coconut palm was in Guaymas, Mexico - which is a desert. I think temperature has more of an effect than humidity.

Guayamas is very hot and humid in summer, humidity definitely is the major factor. if it was temps alone places in LA would be growing fruiting coconuts (as well as southwest desert cities).

for example got to Palm Springs right now and the poor queen palms (much more resistant than coconuts) look like they are dying, then need humidity, temps constantly above 105 F for months hurts the queen palms, and humidity is needed. Palm springs sure does have enough heat (hotter than phoenix) but not the humidity, which equates to no coconuts surviving there