07-22-2009, 09:18 PM
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Hawaii and California are the two of the three most expensive states to live in, I hope you have a decent job lined up because if not you won't make it out here. Cheap housing is $800 for a 4-600 Sq Foot studio .
It seems like we have this thread over and over and over! We should have all "newbies" that want to come to California read one thread on the "Costs of California" before they ask any questions! Kind of like a remedial California course??
Either that or just let them be grilled by Charles until they get it through their skull that California ain't all that cheap and you need a job!!
Unless of course you move to Bakersfield or Stockton?
07-22-2009, 09:41 PM
Location: Denver
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If it is just the beach you want, then Florida would be better and cheaper. Florida has a much more lively night life too.
07-22-2009, 09:58 PM
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Hey,
The coast of California is expensive until you get quite a bit north and that doesn't seem to be what you're wanting.
I live in Santa Cruz and i love it here and it may or may not suit you.
If you want to live alone you'll be paying anywhere between $800 - $1200 (or more) a month and that often doesn't include utilities.
Here is a link to Craiglist in Santa Cruz so you can get an idea of rental prices.
craigslist: santa cruz classifieds for jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events
And here is a link to Craigslist California and i've listed the coastal counties so you can get an idea of what housing costs if you want to live by the ocean. (That's where you'll experience the expense of CA ... housing [in your case, rentals] and gas!)
craigslist: california classifieds for jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events
Coastal Counties (SF bay area on Craigslist includes Marin county i think)
SF bay area
Humboldt county
Los Angeles
Mendicino county
Monterey bay
Orange county
San diego
San luis obispo
Santa barbara
Ventura county
07-23-2009, 11:12 AM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Den Mathias
It seems like we have this thread over and over and over! We should have all "newbies" that want to come to California read one thread on the "Costs of California" before they ask any questions! Kind of like a remedial California course??
Either that or just let them be grilled by Charles until they get it through their skull that California ain't all that cheap and you need a job!!
Unless of course you move to Bakersfield or Stockton?
True, lol @ Bakersfield and stockton real cheap beachfront property there.
07-23-2009, 11:35 AM
Location: North Texas
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Hawaii and California. Cheap housing is $800 for a 4-600 Sq Foot studio .
That wouldn't even put her in a decent studio in So Cal or Hawaii. That's like extened stay hotel or getto extreme living....or maybe with a roommate or is the way outshirts of the city in which a hairdresser needs to live in.
Minnesota, eh
What part? I have a step daughter that lives in New Ulm. She was born and raised in So Cal. And couldn't be happier in MN now. It took her about two years to grow roots in MN.
I think yous chasing a sunshine dream. California is not what it is cracked up to be. I lived their for 15 years. Hawaii is aa overpriced and tourist covered land. Try Arizonia, Nevada...maybe even Vegas area. Your looking for the warmth. Leave in Vegas and the beach is four hours away. Live in Arizonia and you have lakes to visit and Dumont Duns. Havasu is a great place for around your age.
07-23-2009, 11:51 AM
Location: North Texas
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MN can be a great state. But I need a change. When you've lived here and done and seen everything, you have nothing holding you back and you are young why not try a new lifestyle for a year? The people are the same everywhere.. I truly am not a fan of all 4 seasons. It's nice, but I don't love that part of here. Just a change is what I want. Something really different from MN
Try arizonia, nevada, colorado
07-23-2009, 12:46 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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That wouldn't even put her in a decent studio in So Cal or Hawaii. That's like extened stay hotel or getto extreme living....or maybe with a roommate or is the way outshirts of the city in which a hairdresser needs to live in.
None of he area's you recommended have a beach
and Las Vegas sucks to live in, visit cool, but to live? A friend of mine moved there two years ago and hates it.
07-23-2009, 12:55 PM
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None of he area's you recommended have a beach
and Las Vegas sucks to live in, visit cool, but to live? A friend of mine moved there two years ago and hates it.
I know they have no beach.....Vegas might not be the best place to live. Never lived there only visit. OP wants in the middle of a busy city.
07-23-2009, 12:56 PM
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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I think yous chasing a sunshine dream. California is not what it is cracked up to be.
that's so presumptuous.
how do you know that she's chasing a dream and what's the matter with a dream anyway?
if someone has the notion that they want to live in California, why recommend Nevada, Arizona, etc.
yeah, nevada sun in July ... lovely.
geesh.
california may not have been what
you wanted or expected.
there is a reason that people are drawn here.
in large part it's often about the
pacific ocean .
so they come and find that it's home and they love it or they find that it's not what they had hoped for.
07-23-2009, 12:57 PM
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I live south of the twin cities.. Grew up here my whole life and need a change. Something different. So from what I am getting from people is California is not that its all cracked up to be?? I am really glad you are all honest and keep it coming.. I am not planning this for about a year year and a half.. But, I wanted to get the ball rolling on whats out there and opinions. Any other suggestions are great! But I really do want a beach nearby!
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Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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and Las Vegas sucks to live in, visit cool, but to live? A friend of mine moved there two years ago and hates it.
