09-17-2009, 07:19 PM
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and affordable along the central coast of Cali from Pismo to Monterey? Or does "affordable" and "plentiful" create an oxymoron when talking about the central coast?
09-17-2009, 08:22 PM
Location: Columbia, California
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Most coastal properties have slow growth moratoriums, you have to own the property for 5 years before building. This is county by county, you will have to ask a realtor if it applies to any land you are looking at.
09-17-2009, 10:07 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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LOL,scraper
09-17-2009, 10:16 PM
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I've been looking at vacant land on realtor websites. A small lot in old town Monterey near Lighthouse & Prescott (dumpy area looks like to me from Google street views) is going for $200,000.
I'm not too hopeful. Further down the peninsula and heading toward the coast it all looks totally developed. 1+1 SFD's don't even start until the high 3's, low 4's, so no point in thinking about demolition. It looks pretty hopeless.
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Another consideration - buy a scraper in a nice area.
There are none in the "nice" areas.
Nice automatically starts at around 500-600k for 2+1 1000 sf.
09-17-2009, 11:31 PM
Location: Vancouver, WA
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thrillobyte
I've been looking at vacant land on realtor websites. A small lot in old town Monterey near Lighthouse & Prescott (dumpy area looks like to me from Google street views) is going for $200,000.
I'm not too hopeful. Further down the peninsula and heading toward the coast it all looks totally developed. 1+1 SFD's don't even start until the high 3's, low 4's, so no point in thinking about demolition. It looks pretty hopeless.
Actually that area isn't so bad. But the lot may have issues like water rights limitations. So its really hard to tell without talking to a realtor.
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There are none in the "nice" areas. Nice automatically starts at around 500-600k for 2+1 1000 sf.
Yeah, the city of Monterey itself has never been known for affordable housing. So it would be good to look into the surrounding areas as well. There are some relatively affordable homes in Upper Seaside which is right next door to Monterey as an example.
As far as the Pismo and surrounding areas I'm not so sure on the prices. There may be some deals or vacant land over that way.
Otherwise you can always lease for a while and really scope out the areas first hand. That may be a good option for really finding a deal in the long run.
Derek
09-18-2009, 07:04 AM
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Yea, they have affordable lots in Arizona. Lots of lots.
09-18-2009, 08:21 AM
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Prunedale, very affordable for Monterey County
Someone has a 7000 SF lot for sale in Prunedale for $399,000. Slightly uphill. Very affordable indeed.
09-18-2009, 08:21 AM
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and affordable along the central coast of Cali from Pismo to Monterey? Or does "affordable" and "plentiful" create an oxymoron when talking about the central coast?
There is no such thing as affordable near Pismo Beach or Monterey and along the coast. I guess it should be mentioned, affordable means different things to different people. What do you mean by affordable?
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09-18-2009, 08:26 AM
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Actually that area isn't so bad. But the lot may have issues like water rights limitations. So its really hard to tell without talking to a realtor.
You must know this area pretty well, MtnSurfer. That's exactly how the lot was described.
Hawthorne St, Monterey CA 93940 | Homes.com
Notice under features and amenities:
Under current conditions no water available for development. But also notice the dump right next to it, which is also for sale under a separate listing for roughly half million. Looks like it would need to be gutted or completely demolished when you see the close-ups.
09-18-2009, 08:31 AM
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There is no such thing as affordable near Pismo Beach or Monterey and along the coast. I guess it should be mentioned, affordable means different things to different people. What do you mean by affordable?
Affordable to me would be 500K within a mile of the coast. 200-300k 1-5 miles from coast. 100-200k 5-15 miles from coast. looking through the listing people still have their rose-colored glasses on. See my comment on Prunedale lot above.
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Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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I'm not too hopeful. Further down the peninsula and heading toward the coast it all looks totally developed. 1+1 SFD's don't even start until the high 3's, low 4's, so no point in thinking about demolition. It looks pretty hopeless. 
