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Old 10-23-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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Boy! What on earth has happened to California? People are leaving the state in droves!!! What happened to our once idyllic state?

I've lived here for 30 years. I recall how proud I was to tell people that I lived in California; the land of milk and honey; our own slice of paradise. Things have changed enormously. There are the ever increasing tax issues, the fluctuating home prices, traffic, the hustle and bustle of urbanized living. But, there's something else beneath all that which I can't seem to put my finger on. Here's what I mean:

Just this week, my folks moved out of California for good! After visiting several states within the U.S. they finally settled for a rural community within an east coast state. Wednesday afternoon, I picked them up from their home and took them to a nearby restaurant. We struck up a conversation with the waitress and told her how this was their last day in California. The blond/blue eyed doll told us she was born and raised in California and could not wait for the minute in which she could permanently leave the state.

What's happened here? What is that one underlying issue that is making most of us turn our backs on the once pristine state of California???
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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While alot are leaving more are coming in from other states and from out of the country. It's over populated.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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Nothing stays the same, everything is in a state of flux. I suppose the fact that I accept the preceding statement as an immutable fact of life makes it easier for me to ride out this current low point. I've been here all of my 54 years and I'm not abandoning the state because things aren't quite as rosy as they used to be.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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While alot are leaving more are coming in from other states and from out of the country. It's over populated.
Yep.
Just too many people.
It's one of the roots of almost every problem on this planet imo.
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Nothing stays the same, everything is in a state of flux. I suppose the fact that I accept the preceding statement as an immutable fact of life makes it easier for me to ride out this current low point. I've been here all of my 54 years and I'm not abandoning the state because things aren't quite as rosy as they used to be.

(and how Buddhist of you )
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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If, and I do mean IF, I ever decided that all religion isn't a bunch of hogwash, that would be the one I choose.

But, I digress...
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:51 PM
 
Location: where the moss is taking over the villages
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Boy! What on earth has happened to California? People are leaving the state in droves!!! What happened to our once idyllic state?

I've lived here for 30 years. I recall how proud I was to tell people that I lived in California; the land of milk and honey; our own slice of paradise. Things have changed enormously. There are the ever increasing tax issues, the fluctuating home prices, traffic, the hustle and bustle of urbanized living. But, there's something else beneath all that which I can't seem to put my finger on. Here's what I mean:

Just this week, my folks moved out of California for good! After visiting several states within the U.S. they finally settled for a rural community within an east coast state. Wednesday afternoon, I picked them up from their home and took them to a nearby restaurant. We struck up a conversation with the waitress and told her how this was their last day in California. The blond/blue eyed doll told us she was born and raised in California and could not wait for the minute in which she could permanently leave the state.

What's happened here? What is that one underlying issue that is making most of us turn our backs on the once pristine state of California???
When I moved out of CA in 2004, the only truck I could rent was an overprice Penske for one way. I was mortified at the cost.

The reason I was given at UHaul: none of the trucks were coming back, so only 2 way rentals were allowed.

So the outflux has been on the increase for sometime. Sometimes I wonder if I could ever go back...

Kate
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Old 10-23-2009, 01:58 PM
 
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Yep.
Just too many people.
It's one of the roots of almost every problem on this planet imo.
Humans are not the problem. Even as our population increases worldwide, standard of living continously increases worldwide.

Humans are the world's greatest "natural resource".
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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If, and I do mean IF, I ever decided that all religion isn't a bunch of hogwash, that would be the one I choose.

But, I digress...
the essentials or essence of buddhism can be "separated" from (and you can avoid) any and all religiosity.
but, i know, wrong forum.
and you do not wanna go over there!
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Humans are not the problem. Even as our population increases worldwide, standard of living continously increases worldwide.

Humans are the world's greatest "natural resource".
If humans aren't the problem, what in the world is?!!!!
mice?
And i imagine that your idea of a good "standard of living" is quite a bit different than mine.
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