Californians: What if you could split into 2 states? (career, water)

[BacktoBlue]

Originally Posted by Lifeshadower

Don't worry: Sacramento and San Diego would end up in Eastern California for that very reason. For the sake of the comparison, OC and SD counties are in Eastern California, because its pretty clear that they would have much more power and political commonalities with Eastern California than the rest of Coastal California. Who knows, maybe those two would greatly rise up on their own and pose a threat to the power of LA and SF.

Honestly, San Diego doesn't have the conservative stronghold it used to. The county is even changing to democrat as well.

The city is leaning to the left and should no longer be compared to OC.

[BacktoBlue]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Remember I said I would point out to you when your opinions paralleled rightwing? This is one, and is based on two fallacies.
1. That I am a Liberal (I have stated clearly elsewhere what political philosophy I hold)
2. That I support abortion.

Back to the center with you!

I am liberal like I said. (I support abortion, circumcision, gay marriage, social programs, illegal immigrants working jobs Americans don't.)


some rightwing views too. (I am against banning happy meals, banning circumcisions, but that's about the length of my "rightwing" views)

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by BacktoBlue

I am liberal like I said. (I support abortion, circumcision, gay marriage, social programs, illegal immigrants working jobs Americans don't.)

some rightwing views too. (I am against banning happy meals, banning circumcisions, but that's about the length of my "rightwing" views)

That's OK! I believe it's Winston Churchill who said words to the effect, "If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brain!"

[.highnlite]

That has been attributed to a few dozen people, and it is wrong. It is impossible for anyone who knows history to be Conservative, ok not impossible, but it requires a major fit of not thinking about how America came to be.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

That's OK! I believe it's Winston Churchill who said words to the effect, "If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brain!"

Well who ever it was was very narrow-minded for saying it. I won't say much about those who may agree. Once again there you go with your backhanded insults to anyone who's politically different than you are. What if I said a similar things about conservatives and trust me I can.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

That has been attributed to a few dozen people, and it is wrong. It is impossible for anyone who knows history to be Conservative, ok not impossible, but it requires a major fit of not thinking about how America came to be.

Nevermind he did it for me.

[BacktoBlue]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

That's OK! I believe it's Winston Churchill who said words to the effect, "If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brain!"

That's flawed and narrow minded. I am not going to suddenly forget everything I believe in when I turn 60 and then start believing in jesus and all that crap.

[augusto29556]

California = Carolinas if they are going to split into two states.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Well who ever it was was very narrow-minded for saying it. I won't say much about those who may agree. Once again there you go with your backhanded insults to anyone who's politically different than you are. What if I said a similar things about conservatives and trust me I can.

Well, since I'm NOT a true conservative, say what you want. I'll remain fiscally conservative but socially moderate.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Well, since I'm NOT a true conservative, say what you want. I'll remain fiscally conservative but socially moderate.

There is nothing moderate about a person who criticizes liberals (and you do) but not conservatives. A moderate is critical to both sides and you are not.