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Old 07-22-2012, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I am just curious about this. It seems that in the past, for restaurant service, tips here were a bit more optional, though most people tip 10-15% unless it is bad, and also was a bit more variable based on service -- more if more satisfied, less if less satisfied, I've noticed that Canadian tipping culture seems to have shifted more towards American norms, where tips are almost certainly expected, as well as higher amounts (15-20%).

Is it just me, or has the socially acceptable amount for "normal" tipping also changed?
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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I am just curious about this. It seems that in the past, for restaurant service, tips here were a bit more optional, though most people tip 10-15% unless it is bad, and also was a bit more variable based on service -- more if more satisfied, less if less satisfied, I've noticed that Canadian tipping culture seems to have shifted more towards American norms, where tips are almost certainly expected, as well as higher amounts (15-20%).

Is it just me, or has the socially acceptable amount for "normal" tipping also changed?
It's not just you. What really grinds my gears are tip jars at, and the expectation that customers should tip for service at, counter service take out places that are, for all intents and purposes, fast food joints and doughnut shops. That's not on.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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What is the "Canadian tipping culture" like in regards to this sort of tipping?


How To Cow-Tip - YouTube
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I am just curious about this. It seems that in the past, for restaurant service, tips here were a bit more optional, though most people tip 10-15% unless it is bad, and also was a bit more variable based on service -- more if more satisfied, less if less satisfied, I've noticed that Canadian tipping culture seems to have shifted more towards American norms, where tips are almost certainly expected, as well as higher amounts (15-20%).

Is it just me, or has the socially acceptable amount for "normal" tipping also changed?
I have not noticed a change in Canada in the 25 years or so that I have been going to restaurants. It's always been the custom/expectation for 15% of the *before tax* total of the bill.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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Speaking of tipping, I have a question that always confuses me.

I can understand the practice to tip waiters, hotel cleaners etc for their services. However, is it also customary to tip hairdressers. cabdrivers etc?

I am asking because the service of waiters is in addition to the food you buy (price of food) for taking orders and serving the food, cleaning the table etc; however, for barbers, cabdrivers, what's the tip for? I am already paying for their service and their service only, why should one pay 15% extra for the same service that I already paid for? If one does, I fail to understand the logic behind it.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Sunnyside, Calgary
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In general, I think the idea of tipping is kind of ridiculous. Life would be much easier if restaurants paid their staff a fair salary and had those costs reflected in the tip. Instead they expect the customer to cover their staff's wages, despite the fact that we don't really have any basis to make a decision about appropriate compensation. For example, we don't know important considerations such as tip out rate, nor do we know what kind of effort a particular waiter is putting in behind the scenes.

In my experience, 15% has been a standard tip for quite some time, though that value seems to be creeping to 20%+.

The tip jar and tip option at every point of transaction is also getting annoying. I generally do not tip at any place I consider to be equivalent to McDonalds and I certainly don't tip a coffee guy who hands me a cup to fill from their thermos.

Despite my feelings on tipping culture, I play by the rules (for the most part) and tip fairly generously in the standard situations.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:38 PM
 
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In general, I think the idea of tipping is kind of ridiculous. Life would be much easier if restaurants paid their staff a fair salary and had those costs reflected in the tip. Instead they expect the customer to cover their staff's wages, despite the fact that we don't really have any basis to make a decision about appropriate compensation. For example, we don't know important considerations such as tip out rate, nor do we know what kind of effort a particular waiter is putting in behind the scenes.

In my experience, 15% has been a standard tip for quite some time, though that value seems to be creeping to 20%+.

The tip jar and tip option at every point of transaction is also getting annoying. I generally do not tip at any place I consider to be equivalent to McDonalds and I certainly don't tip a coffee guy who hands me a cup to fill from their thermos.

Despite my feelings on tipping culture, I play by the rules (for the most part) and tip fairly generously in the standard situations.
Tip jar? that's absurd.

I give tips only when I am seated by a table, brought a menu and served food. It is ridiculous to pay tips at the counter.

What's next, store sales person expecting tips for selling products? Isn't the same idea as coffee shops?
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Speaking of tipping, I have a question that always confuses me.

I can understand the practice to tip waiters, hotel cleaners etc for their services. However, is it also customary to tip hairdressers. cabdrivers etc?

I am asking because the service of waiters is in addition to the food you buy (price of food) for taking orders and serving the food, cleaning the table etc; however, for barbers, cabdrivers, what's the tip for? I am already paying for their service and their service only, why should one pay 15% extra for the same service that I already paid for? If one does, I fail to understand the logic behind it.
If it isn't customary, someone should tell me so I quit doing it. I tip my hairdresser and cab drivers and I thought you were supposed to.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:36 AM
 
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If it isn't customary, someone should tell me so I quit doing it. I tip my hairdresser and cab drivers and I thought you were supposed to.
my question is what's the rationale for that?
I paid the price for the service (cutting hair, driving) they offer. What's the tip for? For the same service again? It is unreasonable and different for restaurant industry, where we paid for the food, and additional for the service of the waiters.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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[quote=botticelli;25298892]Speaking of tipping, I have a question that always confuses me.

I can understand the practice to tip waiters, hotel cleaners etc for their services. However, is it also customary to tip hairdressers. cabdrivers etc?

It is expected however; if the "owner" of a salon is (i.e.doing your hair) you are not required to tip him/her but, the shampoo person, blow dry person etc. are still looking for something.
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