Considering moving from USA to Canada...How is life in Canada? (health insurance, low crime)

[Zoisite]

Originally Posted by edwardsyzzurphands

Just going to quote my response in the thread you linked:

Considering the US has a population of approximately 311,500,000, 34,000 Visas sounds average (0.00010915% of the population) Conversely Canada at 34,100,000 and average of 10,000 Visa applications the past two years (0.00029326% of the population) Hopefully the numbers are about equal in the coming years, because Canada is still losing a larger portion of its population in comparison.

So per capita more Canadians are moving to the US than Vice Versa.

You know, in retrospect that whole per capita thing is irrelevant and nobody ever said that Canadians and Americans were matching each other on a per capita basis for who's coming and going. The fact still remains that 20,000 Canadians leaving over the course of 2 years is still a record low for Canada, and even with them leaving, Canada still gained more than three times as many from America and the Americans are still lining up at near record levels by the thousands to get into Canada.

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[edwardsyzzurphands]

Originally Posted by Zoisite

You know, in retrospect that whole per capita thing is irrelevant and nobody ever said that Canadians and Americans were matching each other on a per capita basis for who's coming and going. The fact still remains that 20,000 Canadians leaving over the course of 2 years is still a record low for Canada, and even with them leaving, Canada still gained more than three times as many from America and the Americans are still lining up at near record levels by the thousands to get into Canada.

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How is it irrelevant? Of course there will be more Americans moving....because there are more Americans than Canadians on this planet. How is that so difficult to understand? There is also an uptick of Americans moving to Europe and Asia, this is not surprising.

There was a recession in the US, when there is a recession more people leave and less Visa applications are approved because there are fewer employers willing to sponsor. So I guess we agree on this, but per capita is relevant to the discussion and always will be.

[Bideshi]

Why would Canada accept refugees from the US?

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by Zoisite

You know, in retrospect that whole per capita thing is irrelevant and nobody ever said that Canadians and Americans were matching each other on a per capita basis for who's coming and going. The fact still remains that 20,000 Canadians leaving over the course of 2 years is still a record low for Canada, and even with them leaving, Canada still gained more than three times as many from America and the Americans are still lining up at near record levels by the thousands to get into Canada.

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Originally Posted by Bideshi

Why would Canada accept refugees from the US?

I hope it continues to...I've printed off the forms before but have never filled them in, but each passing year I consider Canada more and more seriously. I hope by the time I make my mind up, they'll still take me.

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by BigDGeek

I hope it continues to...I've printed off the forms before but have never filled them in, but each passing year I consider Canada more and more seriously. I hope by the time I make my mind up, they'll still take me.

I wish you luck with your efforts. Landed Immigrant status in Canada is not easy to obtain. No harm trying though!

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

I wish you luck with your efforts. Landed Immigrant status in Canada is not easy to obtain. No harm trying though!

I have a bachelor's degree, I speak French, and I've had a steady career in I.T. for 15 years. I think I'll be OK. Under the points system I had more than enough.

[ellemint]

I don't know why Americans would want to move to Canada for work because unemployment is high in Canada.

It's odd to me that everyone is flipping out over unemployment in the U.S which is at 8.2 - 8.3 % currently. Whereas in Ontario right now it is 7.3 % [July 2012] and no one seems very upset about that. From 1976 to 2012 the unemployment rate in Canada averaged 8.5 %.

Canada Unemployment Rate


From 1994 to 2008 the American unemployment rate was rarely over 6 % and was often in the 5% range.

In Toronto, for February 2012, the most recent year I could find data on, the unemployment rate was 9.5 % down from 10.4 the previous month. That's much worse than the U.S.

http://http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs...file-45813.pdf

And government jobs account for a large per centage of job growth in the Canadian market. In my opinion they are a vast, stodgy, comfortable over-paid government buraucracy that we the taxpayers keep afloat.

You never hear Canadian news in the U.S. I know because I lived there for the last 20 years. Otherwise Americans would know it's not much better up here and in big cities even worse for job prospects.

So it seems to me that in the long-run employment prospects are still better in the U.S. (depending partly on what region you reside).

[KingSamme]

Toronto is at 8.5% currently. But some cities have lower unemployment rates, especially in Alberta.

CBC News - Unemployment statistics

[ellemint]

Originally Posted by KingSamme

Toronto is at 8.5% currently. But some cities have lower unemployment rates, especially in Alberta.

CBC News - Unemployment statistics

thanks for the update. But that's still higher than the average U.S. unemployment rate.

I also don't know if I beieve that Americans are immigrating to Canada in droves. As someone posted above -- why would Canada accept immigrants from the U.S. ?

[Rob702]

Originally Posted by ellemint

thanks for the update. But that's still higher than the average U.S. unemployment rate.

If the Canadian unemployment rate was calculated the same way the American one is, then Canada would score even better.

A fast way to lower jobless rate: Use U.S. metrics - The Globe and Mail