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Old 08-18-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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Here's another thought on the "glee". Your friends may have witnessed a reaction by "some" of those "religion of peace" neanderthals in an enclave of them. We have a multicultural make-up with groups of various ethnicities centered in major city areas and it may have been one of those areas your friends witnessed rejoicing.

Most Canadians, a vast majority of them were simply aghast at the savagery of that one act and we have had terrorist attacks on our soil before that terrible event.

 
Old 08-18-2012, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Canada
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This belief is really an example of the attitude some Americans have - thinking they are the center of the universe. 9/11 affected Canadians too, in many ways including the fact that many of them were killed in it. Nobody was gleeful about it, it changed the world as we know it.
^ Nobody was gleeful about it. People were sickened. Everyone in the world knew we (the world) were on the brink of war. I can't remember which station it was (a US station) started it's broadcast by saying World War 3 had started. Gleeful????

What happens in the US unfortunately doesn't stay in the US.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I actually think I might know what his friend might have heard. I remember one guy when it happened made a comment along the lines of "well, I guess they were bound to provoke this sooner or later with the foreign policy they've been following", but there wasn't a hint of glee in what he was saying, like everyone else he was horrified by the sheer magnitude of that tragedy. Canadians on the whole were VERY sympathetic to the US when that happened and no one even questioned going into Afghanistan to avenge it. We're a NATO country and someone massacred thousands of civilians in your country, popular opinion was massively pro-US in 2001. Things only got rocky as the years went by, however, and Bush alienated Canada in a whole bunch of ways.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 12:52 AM
 
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I find it hard to believe that Canadians would be happy about the deaths of 3000 civilians.
Canadians were actually very helpful during that time with Operation Yellow Ribbon where all flights were diverted to Canada on 9/11/01.
Have you considered the possibility that your friends may have approached the topic the wrong way, thus provoking a negative response from the Canadians? They're the nicest people on Earth I really don't think they would cheer the deaths of people.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:15 AM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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I find it hard to believe that Canadians would be happy about the deaths of 3000 civilians.
Canadians were actually very helpful during that time with Operation Yellow Ribbon where all flights were diverted to Canada on 9/11/01.
Have you considered the possibility that your friends may have approached the topic the wrong way, thus provoking a negative response from the Canadians? They're the nicest people on Earth I really don't think they would cheer the deaths of people.
I'm an American and even I think in a certain abstract sense, as a 'nation' we 'had it coming' in a way because of our meddling and imperialism but I'd never actually be happy over 3000 people dying. Hell Canada even helped with our war though probably not entirely willingly.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I'm an American and even I think in a certain abstract sense, as a 'nation' we 'had it coming' in a way because of our meddling and imperialism but I'd never actually be happy over 3000 people dying. Hell Canada even helped with our war though probably not entirely willingly.
The political reasons that contributed to why it happened and the whole dissecting of the events that led up to 9/11 are fair comment - but there's nothing gleeful about it. There are those in the US as well who had the foresight to fear a terrorism event of such magnitude happening as a result of US foreign policy. In the aftermath of such horror, it would be unnatural for anyone who cares about the world not to play the hindsight is 20/20 thing.

But glee? Never. But the OP mentioned college so I'm assuming he was very young when 9/11 happened and maybe to him it seems like ancient history. I don't think people who were very young at that time realise just how horrible it was and what kind of terror it instilled in people throughout the world. It was a horror. People were glued to their television sets day and night.

Everyone stopped travelling. Rumours were flying everywhere about potential terrorists. There was a very real danger of the entire world being enveloped in a terrible war - and of course the wars that there have already been have been terrible enough and have laid the foundation for even more conflict further down the road.

And many people fell victim to their worst fears - particularly the press (I have heard they were on a wartime propaganda footing and not allowed to present an unbiased report on what was going on). The press did a terrible job of asking questions of just how these wars were justified and were far too gullible in the belief that overnight Afghanistan and Iraq would embrace American-style democracy or that the war would be won quickly.

It changed the world forever and has set the stage for worse things to come.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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Be it latent or explicit, much of the Canadian identity is defined by anti-Americanism. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise, Jim Carols.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Be it latent or explicit, much of the Canadian identity is defined by anti-Americanism. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise, Jim Carols.
Sorry, I don't know who this Jim Carols is, nor do I believe him...I see a lot more Americans who are anti Canadian posting here here than I do Canadians who are anti American.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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Sorry, I don't know who this Jim Carols is, nor do I believe him...I see a lot more Americans who are anti Canadian posting here here than I do Canadians who are anti American.
Jim Carols seems to be the op who doesnt appear to be interested in returning to his topic, but if he does..Maybe i should ask his opinion of my upcoming trip to his country, i hear the place is full of gun toting fat slobs who hang out in their pickup trucks at Walmarts gleefully devising mass shooting events,Skin heads and Gangsta's run rampant in the streets and the cops are just as likely to gun you down for the most trivial of offenses and every one you meet will tell you your a commie pinko when they find out you are from Canada.
At least thats what some of my Canadian friends in America tell me..
Any truth to this Jim?

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Old 08-19-2012, 04:14 PM
 
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We were more than just a little miffed perhaps at the instantaneous leap to "accuse' by a few senators (notably McCain) and other officials who immediately stated for all the world to hear; those terrorists entered your country through Canada. The truth was very reluctantly disseminated in dribs and drabs, they had all entered the U.S. on valid visitor visas by every other port of call BUT Canada.

Napolitanonuts who couldn't be bothered policing her border with Mexico when she was governor of Arizona gets put in charge of Homeland Security and immediately states it's the border with Canada she's worried about. Strange she wasn't worried about 12 million illegal mexicans all pouring across the border she was responsible for, isn't it?

These are the kinds of things Canadians have endured without too much we can say or do about it because you are our largest trading partner, so in most instances we just have to shut up and tolerate the U.S. talking heads making political points at Canada's expense. The very real question that could be asked with many examples to bolster the claim is "why do Americans hate Canada so much"?
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