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You might actually try checking Canadian news sources.
True, there is often (but not always) a US story in the local news. But it's mainly local news--a lot of coverage of local events (for example, a national dignitary spoke to a class at the local university, police are looking for the driver who committed a hit-and-run on Seventh Avenue, etc.). Very little on topics beyond our locality. More broadly, national news media cover items of national interest (Quebec language laws, Ontario's Liberal leadership convention, changes to the national employment insurance plan, etc.).
The latter bring us international news, but American news items are mixed in with the rest. North Korea's recent nuclear test, the American budget problems, the South African gunman who competed at the Olympics--they're all mixed in together. Sure, the US election got coverage, but the US is right next door, and the US president and Congress decide policy on (for example) cross-border trade with Canada, in which we obviously have a vested interest. So naturally, that gets coverage. But we're not covering California's budget problems, or Kansas's agricultural sales, or Tennessee's tourism industry.
At any rate, our media does not present a lot of American news, unless it is indeed newsworthy. Your arguments about healthcare are newsworthy, because we (and the rest of the civilized world) simply cannot comprehend why the US makes its citizens personally pay for healthcare. Your reluctance to amend your constitution to prevent massacres such as Newtown, Columbine, and Virginia Tech is newsworthy, because it just goes against common sense. You invaded a country (Iraq) without provocation, against the wishes of the UN, and you wondered why the world gasped, and why the Iraqis did not welcome you as liberators.
If the US does dominate global coverage, which I doubt, then I would suggest it is for the wrong reasons. We're not admiring you--we're laughing at you.
You can't deny that the US get's more international coverage than any other country, and I understand, as the only superpower, why that's the case. All I'm saying is that it needs to be acknowledged when there's a discussion on feelings and perceptions of America and Americans.
You talk about US healthcare, but Canada is ranked 30th which isn't very far from the US 38th. France is 1st and I'm pretty sure if there was equal coverage, the "civilized world" wouldn't be able to comprehend Canada's healthcare system either. But there's not as much coverage of Canadian healthcare around the world, so you Canadians think your healthcare is nearly perfect even though the difference between 1st and 30th is greater than 30th and 38th.
And you describe US faults in an unbalanced way even though European countries have committed more crimes against humanity in history. The US is a more kind superpower that has done more good for the world than bad creating the most peaceful time in human history.
I'm done with thinking in terms of providing you with cognizant responses. You totally ignore their content and respond with the same repetitive inanity regardless, so I'm in for the entertainment value.
I'm done with thinking in terms of providing you with cognizant responses. You totally ignore their content and respond with the same repetitive inanity regardless, so I'm in for the entertainment value.
If that displeases you ~ ~ gee; put me on ignore.
You're using the same old tired playbook: more excuses and distractions to cover up for the fact that you have no point, argument or sources. While my argument has been straightforward and consistent from the start with sources to back it up.
And why would I ignore you? It's so easy debating when the other side has no argument or any worthwhile point to make.
You can't deny that the US get's more international coverage than any other country, and I understand, as the only superpower, why that's the case. All I'm saying is that it needs to be acknowledged when there's a discussion on feelings and perceptions of America and Americans.
I'll acknowledge that if you acknowledge that El Salvador has 1/8 the crime rate that the United States has, and that it's horrifically violent reputation is largely a myth, stemming from disproportionate coverage of it's relatively few crimes (Because as we've discussed, that's what your stats claim).
I'd also like some type of statistical corroboration of your claims - something that would suggest that Canadian media sources, for example, are more likely to cover American violence than Canadian.
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YWhile my argument has been straightforward and consistent from the start with sources to back it up.
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Again, you said violent crime definitions vary, so I moved on to total crime.
You're using the same old tired playbook: more excuses and distractions to cover up for the fact that you have no point, argument or sources. While my argument has been straightforward and consistent from the start with sources to back it up.
And why would I ignore you? It's so easy debating when the other side has no argument or any worthwhile point to make.
At least a couple of other posters have provided you with links that you totally ignored and came back with the same nonsense repetitively.
Simply repeating the inaccurate does not a debate make. Your consistent argument was proven wrong numerous times but yet you insist on repeat, rinse, repeat.
Suggest you look up "debate" and actually try it for the first time in your history on these boards.
The "point" as you like to call your premise has been proven wrong now at least as many times as you keep repeating it.
Come on back now with "you're using the same old tired playbook .......etc.," in that well know method of yours of accusing others of your affliction.
??? I never left. And what have I said that's obfuscating? My point is simple to understand: Because the US is at the center of global attention, there's more coverage of US crime, which results in an over exaggerated view of America.
That's a ridiculous claim. There's virtually no coverage of US crime, unless it's yet another school shooting, or something equally big. Why on earth would our news cover American crime stories? Have you ever even seen a Canadian news broadcast? Right now our coverage consists of the Popeful Hopefuls, the Magnotta trial, the Language Taliban and giant potholes. We really don't give a hoot about your local crime stories.
My impressions of crime in the USA have to do with actually travelling there, and then living there.
I'll acknowledge that if you acknowledge that El Salvador has 1/8 the crime rate that the United States has, and that it's horrifically violent reputation is largely a myth, stemming from disproportionate coverage of it's relatively few crimes (Because as we've discussed, that's what your stats claim).
In 2012, El Salvador had the second-highest murder rate in the world, with a staggering 69.2 murders per 100,000 people. by comparison, the United States, by comparison, sits at 4.2 per 100,000.
El Salvador has over 16 times the murder rate of the United States, beating out every country in the world besids Honduras (at 91.6 per 100,000). That hardly seems like the stuff of "myth" to me, and kind of negates your claim it suffers from 1/8 the violent crime that takes place in America.
In 2012, El Salvador had the second-highest murder rate in the world, with a staggering 69.2 murders per 100,000 people. by comparison, the United States, by comparison, sits at 4.2 per 100,000.
El Salvador has over 16 times the murder rate of the United States, beating out every country in the world besids Honduras (at 91.6 per 100,000). That hardly seems like the stuff of "myth" to me, and kind of negates your claim it suffers from 1/8 the violent crime that takes place in America.
Please read all pertinent posts prior to jumping in.
Drknoble has been referencing a source that claims less crime per capita in the US than in Canada. It also lists Colombia and El Salvador as having less crime per capita than the US. So, either his source makes no sense (which as you've picked up, is most certainly the case) or El Salvador is actually safer than the US. So far, he's refused to choose one.
To elaborate further - from page 9 of this thread:
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That map uses the same data as Nation masters, but in a more misleading way because it doesn't factor in population. Once you do, it becomes apparent that the US has a lower crime rate than Canada:
US total crime 11,877,218 divided by 313,914,040 US pop. = 3.7%
Canada total crime 2,516,918 divided by 34,482,779 Can. pop. = 7.2%
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Here are a few other countries from that Nationmaster list, using the same methodology as used above:
El Salvador - 44,762 total crimes / 6,183,000 population = 0.7%
Colombia - 214,192 total crimes / 46,943,000 population = 0.4%
* Please note: The homicide rate in El Salvador is 69.2/100,000 - second highest in the world, or 14 times greater than that of the US. Colombia's is 31.0 (sourced from UN office on Drugs and Crime) - though a more accurate comparison would be the 70/100,000 reported in 2002, the same year as the data from the Nationmaster list.
Despite the grim reputations of these two countries and the correspondingly high homicide rates, drknoble's meticulous analysis proves that both El Salvador and Colombia are far, far safer than the United States.
Perhaps the media's incessant focus on El Salvadorian crime is to blame?
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