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Drknoble has been referencing a source that claims less crime per capita in the US than in Canada. It also lists Colombia and El Salvador as having less crime per capita than the US. So, either his source makes no sense (which as you've picked up, is most certainly the case) or El Salvador is actually safer than the US. So far, he's refused to choose one.
To elaborate further - from page 9 of this thread:
My apologies. I completely misunderstood the points being made here.
I'll acknowledge that if you acknowledge that El Salvador has 1/8 the crime rate that the United States has, and that it's horrifically violent reputation is largely a myth, stemming from disproportionate coverage of it's relatively few crimes (Because as we've discussed, that's what your stats claim).
Since you're so caught up on El Salvador, why don't you provide some data on the country's total crime and victims of crime so we can all take a look and comment.
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Originally Posted by Stubblejumper
I'd also like some type of statistical corroboration of your claims - something that would suggest that Canadian media sources, for example, are more likely to cover American violence than Canadian.
That's not my claim nor does my claim suggest that. It seems you're confused, maybe you should go back and re-read this thread.
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Originally Posted by Stubblejumper
How consistent of you.
Obviously I'm referring to my overall message, which has been consistent from the start. Crime is 1 point that supports my main argument.
At least a couple of other posters have provided you with links that you totally ignored and came back with the same nonsense repetitively.
Simply repeating the inaccurate does not a debate make. Your consistent argument was proven wrong numerous times but yet you insist on repeat, rinse, repeat.
Suggest you look up "debate" and actually try it for the first time in your history on these boards.
The "point" as you like to call your premise has been proven wrong now at least as many times as you keep repeating it.
This coming from the guy who thinks cheerleading equals debating.
Your answer to not having sources or a point is to vaguely refer to someone else's sources and argument. Why don't you want to do your own dirty work? My sources show that Canada has a higher percentage of total crime and victims of crime, which supports my argument that the exaggerated perception of crime in the US is due to it receiving more international coverage.
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Originally Posted by BruSan
Come on back now with "you're using the same old tired playbook .......etc.," in that well know method of yours of accusing others of your affliction.
Now; what was the topic again?
And, If you continue to not provide an argument or source, then I will continue to point that out. I mean apparently you don't even know what the topic is.
That's a ridiculous claim. There's virtually no coverage of US crime, unless it's yet another school shooting, or something equally big. Why on earth would our news cover American crime stories? Have you ever even seen a Canadian news broadcast? Right now our coverage consists of the Popeful Hopefuls, the Magnotta trial, the Language Taliban and giant potholes. We really don't give a hoot about your local crime stories.
My impressions of crime in the USA have to do with actually travelling there, and then living there.
That's not my claim.
Once again, my claim is that there is more global coverage of the US leading to an exaggerated view of the America by the international community. Meaning, compared with other foreign countries, Canadian media covers the US more via news, tv, movies, etc.
This is why Canada and other countries did more coverage of the US Presidential election than any other election outside of their own country:
We covered the US presidential campaign, yes, and give more attention to the US on certain things like entertainment industry, but that doesn't mean we're hyper aware of every local crime that happens in the US, we only hear about the really prominent mass killings, and we also hear about those when they happen in Mexico or Finland. We pay more attention to the US selectively, not in every single field and your local crime reporting certainly fits into that category of stuff we don't pay attention to. Doesn't mean we're unaware of generally how safe or dangerous a city is, sam way you don't have to watch Brazilian news to know about Sao Paolo's reputation as a less than safe city.
That's not my claim nor does my claim suggest that. It seems you're confused, maybe you should go back and re-read this thread...
Once again, my claim is that there is more global coverage of the US leading to an exaggerated view of the America by the international community. Meaning, compared with other foreign countries, Canadian media covers the US more via news, tv, movies, etc.
Are you certain you know what you're claiming?
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Originally Posted by drknoble
Since you're so caught up on El Salvador, why don't you provide some data on the country's total crime and victims of crime so we can all take a look and comment.
You must be confused. Perhaps you should go back and re-read this thread.
And, If you continue to not provide an argument or source, then I will continue to point that out. I mean apparently you don't even know what the topic is.
And, if we do provide sources, you'll spend pages pretending they don't exist.
This coming from the guy who thinks cheer leading equals debating.
Your answer to not having sources or a point is to vaguely refer to someone else's sources and argument. Why don't you want to do your own dirty work? My sources show that Canada has a higher percentage of total crime and victims of crime, which supports my argument that the exaggerated perception of crime in the US is due to it receiving more international coverage.
And, If you continue to not provide an argument or source, then I will continue to point that out. I mean apparently you don't even know what the topic is.
All this from the guy who thinks debating is repetitively parroting his one Nationmaster source that has been proven inaccurate any number of times by both arguments with facts, and links to other sites he chooses to ignore and entrenches his position by whining the worlds press is biased and unfair towards the U.S. singularly
Your knowledge of the debate process as garnered by the sand box follies of kindergarten may have stood you in good stead up until now with your usual hang-out friends from McD's but c'mon here drknobelle your premise that the U.S. is given unfair and biased news coverage by the worlds media PLUS YOUR OWN is just more obfuscation and refusal to accept reality by ignoring the facts you don't like.
I know what to expect by way of a response from you now and you must be the thickest skinned individual I've ever met if you haven't got the faintest glimmer of understanding how your responses to date have made you appear on these boards.
You'll have to forgive my confusion about the original topic as you've taken us off topic some time ago, but, lest you've forgotten, the post was a question framed thusly: "Do Canadians feel safe when they visit the U.S." Another fact you'll choose to ignore I bet.
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