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Old 04-21-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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It seems to me that Ontario is more oriented to the US Northeast than to the Midwest. A majority of Ontarians live closest to border crossings in New York State, Lake Ontario isn't in the midwest, Toronto's sports teams are in the "eastern" rather than central or western divisions with NYC, Boston, etc. Colonial towns like Kingston, Port Hope, Cobourg and Niagara-on-the-Lake just don't feel at all midwestern. However Ontario does have ties to Michigan via the auto industry and also a history of Ontarians immigrating there. Interestingly Upstate New York and Michigan feel somewhat similar (due to the latter's history of being settled by "Yankees" from the former). Michigan is the midwestern state influenced most by New York/New England.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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To me Ontario just feels like Canada. It has more in common with British Columbia even, than it does with the American states nearby.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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Buffalo (closest city to Toronto in upstate New York) does fall in the Northeast corridor but it is really a blend of Midwest and Northeast, but probably tilts more Midwest in terms of culture. Buffalo is far from hardcore Northeast like the BosWash corridor along the East coast. Toronto is the same. It's a blend but I would say maybe 2/3rds Midwest and 1/3rd Northeast with a Canadian twist (Canada is a separate country afterall). The rest of Ontario is more Midwest as the whole province basically hovers on top of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Ohio and upstate New York. It is true that a town like Kingston might be more of a blend like say a Pittsburgh but a town like London is prototypical Midwest.

Regardless, if the US annexed Canada, Ontario would be seen as most similar to Michigan or Illinois and part of the Midwest or what they call the "Greak Lakes Mega region", which would include all Great Lakes cities including Buffalo. Georgraphical boundries are not cut and dry when defining regions.

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Old 04-22-2013, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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From my perspective it is a mix, but at least for the Toronto area and any points east I would clearly give the edge to the northeastern US.

For Toronto, there are quite a few more business, cultural and family links with the NE US (especially NYC) than with Chicago and the Midwest. Just look at the number of flights per day between Toronto and New York.

This is not to say that Toronto is indifferent to Chicago and the Midwest, but generally speaking Toronto's eyes are more often than not turned to the east.

Note also that the two Canadian cities with which Toronto has the most and closest interaction (Montreal and Ottawa) would be totally oriented towards the US NE.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Well the part that borders Minnesota reminds me alot of Minnesota.

Not much people live up there though.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:54 PM
 
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For Toronto, there are quite a few more business, cultural and family links with the NE US (especially NYC) than with Chicago and the Midwest. Just look at the number of flights per day between Toronto and New York.
What links did you have in mind? Every city has lots of flights to/from NYC and every city has people who move to NYC to work. The businesses in Toronto are very Canadian focused as well and I can't think of any real economic links to NYC that would be different from anywhere else. Financial services and Manufacturing are the big industries in Ontario and Illinois. Cultural items from NYC influence many cities like Toronto and Chicago and not so much the other way around. I agree that Toronto (being the big city in Canada) aspires to be more like NYC but that doesn't mean it is. When I lived in NYC and told people I was from, most didn't even know where Toronto was on the map so there are no links from a recognition perspective. The lifestyle, personalities, outlook, and work ethic of the people in Toronto, although not exactly alike, are more similar to Chicago than NYC in my personal experience. Not that there is anything wrong with that. In all fairness only London reminds me New York, of course it is a European version.

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Old 04-22-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Toronto reminds me more of....Toronto, Ontario.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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Toronto reminds me more of....Toronto, Ontario.
Comparisons to the US just never end. The majority of threads here always compare to the US in some form or another and I wish it would stop. Especially since most people haven't lived in both countries to begin with.

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Old 04-22-2013, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Comparisons to the US just never end. The majority of threads here always compare to the US in some form or another and I wish it would stop. Especially since most people haven't lived in both countries to begin with.
What do you expect? This is an American site, whose whole purpose is basically to compare different locations.
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:40 PM
 
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Part of the reason may be related to family ties; while their ethnic compositions aren't all that similar there are a lot of immigrant communities that are significant in NYC and Toronto but not in Chicago.

And again there seems to be assumption here that "BosWash" and "Northeast" are synonymous. Is Scranton PA "midwestern" in terms of "culture"?

Rochester doesn't feel very Midwestern to me and it's just a tad east of Toronto.
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