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Old 05-18-2013, 10:19 PM
 
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I definitively felt a bit of culture shock going to Vancouver and comparing the city to Los Angeles.

The biggest cultural differences I noticed was the metric system, bilingual French/English on packages and signs, generally nicer/less competitive people, British spellings, British like candies, and the fact the inner city areas were cleaner.

Another big difference I noticed was the lack of the Inner city urban culture in Vancouver. There was drug vagrants in Vancouver. But in most of the larger American cities, there is a common inner city urban culture that I didn't see in Vancouver. Which might be similar to other large Canadian cities. This is from the fact that Canada never had a White Flight/Abandonment effect like American cities do.
What do you mean by Inner city urban culture.

The city of Vancouver is really like no other city in the US and Canada it has high diversity from people all over world living there .

Also do to geography the city is limited to where it can spread out too so is normally very dense .
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:26 PM
 
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The Canadian raising the phenomena where it sounds like they are asking a question all the time.
I didn't know this was a purely Canadian thing (I thought all Anglo-Saxons did it) but it drives me NUTS! Most offenders are women.

"So, I was like, walking on the street? And then, he like asked me out? So I said awesome! And then he like kissed me?"

It drives me NUTS!
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:54 AM
 
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What do you mean by Inner city urban culture.

The city of Vancouver is really like no other city in the US and Canada it has high diversity from people all over world living there .

Also do to geography the city is limited to where it can spread out too so is normally very dense .
Inner city urban culture means "ghetto" culture, as practiced not only by inner city African Americans, but also hispanics, whites and people from other racial groups that were culturally influenced by "ghetto" African American culture in the inner city. Canada's urban underclass has much, much less of that because we only have a few tiny pockets of old stock blacks descended from African Americans, that demographic is largely unique to America and so that cultural influence is basically absent from Vancouver (although Caribbeans and old stock African Canadians bring something similar but not identical to the cities of Toronto and Montreal, to a somewhat lesser extent then you'd find in the US). Vancouver has gang culture, but it's often biker, Sikh street gangs in Surrey, and Triads.
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Old 05-19-2013, 01:51 AM
 
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Inner city urban culture means "ghetto" culture, as practiced not only by inner city African Americans, but also hispanics, whites and people from other racial groups that were culturally influenced by "ghetto" African American culture in the inner city. Canada's urban underclass has much, much less of that because we only have a few tiny pockets of old stock blacks descended from African Americans, that demographic is largely unique to America and so that cultural influence is basically absent from Vancouver (although Caribbeans and old stock African Canadians bring something similar but not identical to the cities of Toronto and Montreal, to a somewhat lesser extent then you'd find in the US). Vancouver has gang culture, but it's often biker, Sikh street gangs in Surrey, and Triads.
I'm sure other people can say more about this than me but from what I understand in Canada there is more emphasize on the downtown living and preserving the downtown .The US culture of white fight and overcrowding of North East US cities caused major move to southern US and west so the idea of living in condo or apartment was so popular in US .

Many Americans thought that black people where less of person and very dangerous living close by them this caused many white people to move to the suburbs.Little if any money gone into downtown area because no one wanted to live in area by blacks and above store or in apartment.This why many downtown are ghetto .

Where in Canada there is more emphasize on the downtown.The idea of living house is not strong in Canada. Toronto ,Montreal and Vancouver are very important cities to people Canada so there is lot of money being put into emphasize down town living.Just in past 10 years the downtown has had major change of many new condos.
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Old 05-19-2013, 01:56 AM
 
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Inner city urban culture means "ghetto" culture, as practiced not only by inner city African Americans, but also hispanics, whites and people from other racial groups that were culturally influenced by "ghetto" African American culture in the inner city. Canada's urban underclass has much, much less of that because we only have a few tiny pockets of old stock blacks descended from African Americans, that demographic is largely unique to America and so that cultural influence is basically absent from Vancouver (although Caribbeans and old stock African Canadians bring something similar but not identical to the cities of Toronto and Montreal, to a somewhat lesser extent then you'd find in the US). Vancouver has gang culture, but it's often biker, Sikh street gangs in Surrey, and Triads.
Also other thing that more of US culture is hood/ ghetto where Canada does not really have this .In the hood/ ghetto you talk different way , behavior different way and dress mean or tough like you from the hood/ ghetto or like a gangster.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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I'm sure other people can say more about this than me but from what I understand in Canada there is more emphasize on the downtown living and preserving the downtown .The US culture of white fight and overcrowding of North East US cities caused major move to southern US and west so the idea of living in condo or apartment was so popular in US .

Many Americans thought that black people where less of person and very dangerous living close by them this caused many white people to move to the suburbs.Little if any money gone into downtown area because no one wanted to live in area by blacks and above store or in apartment.This why many downtown are ghetto .

Where in Canada there is more emphasize on the downtown.The idea of living house is not strong in Canada. Toronto ,Montreal and Vancouver are very important cities to people Canada so there is lot of money being put into emphasize down town living.Just in past 10 years the downtown has had major change of many new condos.
In the United States there actually seems to be a lot of people moving back into the cities, downtown's are building a lot of residential, public transportation is improving.
you wouldn't believe how many cities have some sort of rail line under construction.
problem is they are focusing a lot on light rail transit and not so much in heavy rail transit.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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I didn't know this was a purely Canadian thing (I thought all Anglo-Saxons did it) but it drives me NUTS! Most offenders are women.

"So, I was like, walking on the street? And then, he like asked me out? So I said awesome! And then he like kissed me?"

It drives me NUTS!
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Canadian raising refers to either of two similar sound changes that occur in a number of North American varieties of the English language, in which certain diphthongs are "raised" before voiceless consonants
No idea what is is voiceless consonant.

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The first variant, "classic" Canadian raising, occurs largely in Canadian English and in certain nearby areas of the northern United States, and affects both // and //.
I think Wikipedia means ai and ou not au.

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This results in the stereotypical Canadian pronunciation of about as "aboot"

Yes because in the US the diphthongs ou is different to people in Canada it sound like they are saying abart to people in Canada.


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A second variant with a much larger distribution across many parts of the United States affects only //, and results in differing pronunciations of the first vowel in the words rider and writer.
I think Wikipedia made a mistake there are no diphthongs in rider and writer.


Canadian raising - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:25 AM
 
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No idea what is is voiceless consonant.
Voiced consonants: b, d, m, n, l, r, z, v - you can't say them without making a sound
Voiceless: k, f, p, t, s - you can say them without making a sound
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I think Wikipedia means ai and ou not au.
No, learn some basic IPA.
found = /faʊnd/ in IPA.
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I think Wikipedia made a mistake there are no diphthongs in rider and writer.
What do you think the "ai" sound in those words is?
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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Many Americans thought that black people where less of person and very dangerous living close by them this caused many white people to move to the suburbs.Little if any money gone into downtown area because no one wanted to live in area by blacks and above store or in apartment.This why many downtown are ghetto .
Good thread on this subject here:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/canad...n-ghettos.html
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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I think of Canadian culture as being American culture but without a lot of the things that make America what it is. People aren't passionate about politics and there's not a strong libertarian or conservative movement. Canadians aren't terrified of their government stripping away their freedoms generally speaking.

There isn't much of a distinct Black Canadian culture and Hispanic influence is almost nil, though Mexican food seems to be becoming more popular up there. Canada has different influential minorities - the French Canadians, Newfies, First Nations, Chinese, and Indians.

Hockey is just another sport in America and is only popular in certain states. In Canada it's religion. They even have hockey players on their five dollar bill! Two things unite all of Canada from Vancouver Island to Newfoundland - love of hockey and reverence for national healthcare. If neither of those existed I honestly think Canada would have split into separate countries or joined the United States a long time ago.
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