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Old 09-05-2013, 12:26 AM
 
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I like the humor AJ but with a Charter of Values the longterm implications of such a bill could become daunting for many, Charter of Quebec Values strikes me as a very arbitrary piece of legislation as its akin to Quebec getting a blank check to do just about anything it wants in the guise of "Quebec values",
What/who's definition of values will be used? who decides what values are implemented ?
If this legislation is passed the wearing of religious attire or symbols in public institutions is immediately contravening the law, do you really think thats where it ends?What other Quebec values will be imposed in the future?
Does Canada conflict with Quebec Values? Obviously Anglos are in conflict with Quebec values, how about visible minorities and Quebecs native population?
A piece of legislation like this Charter of Quebec Values is rife for abuse by those with a penchant for intolerance.

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Old 09-05-2013, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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Retired former British guys who drive convertible Miatas.
You've just described my cat-sitter, when I'm away. He's a neighbour, a retired veterinarian, originally from the UK, who is a naturalized Canadian. And he drives a convertible Miata.

How did you know?
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:14 AM
 
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[quote]A piece of legislation like this Charter of Quebec Values is rife for abuse by those with a penchant for intolerance.
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“Free societies...are societies in motion, and with motion comes tension, dissent, friction. Free people strike sparks, and those sparks are the best evidence of freedom's existence.”
― Salman Rushdie

Quebec's been on an interesting road all these years. The 'sparks' are ok. They're the glowing bits of a free society. Question is there's a thin line sometimes between sparks and a conflagration....;-)...
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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As just one example why is the Quebec government so obsessed with people who wear turbans to the point where they go to extremes to ban the head piece..?IMO who cares if some one wants to wear a turban or any other head covering for that matter.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I just can't believe this!

Halifax police investigating black statue hanging incident at Leon's store
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:24 AM
 
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I saw that on the news, racism can be ugly anywhere it pops up..like these examples
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1357559/

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...190126553.html

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Old 09-06-2013, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Interesting disparity in news coverage in Google News:

Saguenay mosque: 1500 hits

Halifax furniture store: less than 50 hits
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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I'm originally from Halifax, born and raised. I do believe it (unfortunately).
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Old 11-22-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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Its own ridicule by newspapers that make up stories from urban legend?!

I don't think that quote is fair as Quebec is surrounded by anglos and just by their nature, those anglos dilute the existing culture.
You don't have the same dynamic in France. English people don't move there in big numbers to work and live and if they do, they don't/can't dilute the French culture. In Quebec, they can by putting up their own signs, shops, etc. and forcing out the French.
Listen, I'm an American and unfortunetly live on the Italian French Border for family reasons. I just came back from Quebec City . I find the Qubecers have great food, are friendly, clean, orderly and think Anglo Canada and America would do well to emulate them ! Unfortunetly in " Real France " many people are angry, jealous, dirty and too damm proud about nothing. So give me Quebec any day !!! Someone should come in to Dilute the French " Culture " here.....a good cleanseing would help !!!!
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Old 11-22-2013, 08:08 AM
 
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It makes perfect sense when you view it through the prism of the higher objective of all of this: convincing as many people as possible that French Canadians are unworthy/unfit to govern themselves.

It's fundamentally an anti-separatism thing but when there were constitutional talks in the 1990s (Meech, Charlottetetown, distinct society) it was also about demonstrating that the only legislature controlled by francophones in this part of the world could not be entrusted with more powers.

Hence the very broad coverage from media both inside and outside Quebec about every single thing that happens in Quebec that is negative.

If you talk to Canadians outside Quebec it is astonishing how the average person can be well-informed about the goings-on in La Belle Province (at least the negative goings-on), and often blissfully unaware of things happening in their own backyard because the media (and I suppose the cocktail party/BBQ circuit) attention is so disproportionately tilted towards the slightest shenanigan in Quebec.
So walk across the Bridge to Ottawa.....Do you want Quebec to be another France ?? Come over here and take a look at how "Smart" the French are at governing themselves....Your better off as part of Canada !!!!
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