Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country (airplane, trailer)

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by newdixiegirl

Thank you, Acajack! One would think that "logic disconnect" is obvious, no?

Apparently not. I have to provide concrete proof that Canadians mostly watch American movies and TV...

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Lyndarn

I love this post as Canadian's are known to be a "I and Let Live Society" unlike below our 49th Parallel. Can you Imagine the US Government accepting our multi-party Political System?? How about our Universal HC System?? How about freedom to marry regardless of sexual orientation and receive all due benefits?? OHHH yeah.. How about our GUN Regulations??? LOL Yikes..USA as we know it may explode if they are required to adopt such a constitution

So in a word..USA and Canada becoming One Country in one word.....NO!!

I don't agree with Nat completely, but he made a good post which, bizarrely enough, you disproved (and proved my point more) in your reply to his.

[texdav]

I don't see it. Canada and US have very different cultures based on looking at political systems alone.US already has many differences by region. Besides Canada wouldn't come out well representative wise. I think trade ties are enough personally and US is big enough as it is. Just see the difference in the pipeline debate that would have stalled much of Canada's wealth from oil alone. I do think the trade alliance of Canada;US and Mexico has great possibility in the future with right leadership in each tho.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by texdav

Just see the difference in the pipeline debate that would have stalled much of Canada's wealth from oil alone.

Canada's wealth is in no way dependent on whether that Keystone pipeline is built or not built.

[BruSan]

Originally Posted by texdav

I don't see it. Canada and US have very different cultures based on looking at political systems alone.US already has many differences by region. Besides Canada wouldn't come out well representative wise. I think trade ties are enough personally and US is big enough as it is. Just see the difference in the pipeline debate that would have stalled much of Canada's wealth from oil alone. I do think the trade alliance of Canada;US and Mexico has great possibility in the future with right leadership in each tho.

Oh my, as an American, you used the forbidden term "very different cultures" which will almost certainly result in you getting chastised by some Canadians and an ex-pat or two all claiming we don't have a distinct culture because we watch American TV and winter in Florida.

The pipeline oil is and always was getting sent via rail and truck in any case so no stall occurred and any worries on the economic benefit to Canada are therefore wasted.

Your one take-away point of trade ties being sufficient enough is very valid.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by BruSan

Oh my, as an American, you used the forbidden term "very different cultures" which will almost certainly result in you getting chastised by some Canadians and an ex-pat or two all claiming we don't have a distinct culture because we watch American TV and winter in Florida.
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The justification for Canada remaining a separate country from the U.S. (which I agree with, believe it or not) is on more solid ground when it is framed in terms of mindset and outlook on life as opposed to cultural differences (which do exist of course but they can be more subtle).

[BruSan]

Originally Posted by Acajack

The justification for Canada remaining a separate country from the U.S. (which I agree with, believe it or not) is on more solid ground when it is framed in terms of mindset and outlook on life as opposed to cultural differences (which do exist of course but they can be more subtle).

I'm confused; it was my perhaps mistaken belief that a generalized "mindset" and "outlook on life" were two very important defining aspects of those things describing a cultural uniqueness.

[newdixiegirl]

Originally Posted by BruSan

Oh my, as an American, you used the forbidden term "very different cultures" which will almost certainly result in you getting chastised by some Canadians and an ex-pat or two all claiming we don't have a distinct culture because we watch American TV and winter in Florida.

Uh, if I'm one of the ex-pats you're talking about, sir, I HAVE NEVER SAID ANYTHING OF THE KIND. Please stop putting words into my mouth or hearing what you want to hear.

I've essentially said (and you can review my posts, if you like, for confirmation) that Canadians CHOOSE to saturate themselves in things American (culture, news, leisure, etc). They CHOOSE, in many ways, to be a facsimile of the US. Far too much, imo, IF they also fear, as they often claim they do, of being swallowed up by the US. IF they also feel, as they almost all say they do, that the US is too powerful a country and its influence too widespread.

The problem is NOT that you consume American culture or winter in Florida, per se - however much you insist that that's what I and others have suggested. The problem, which is obvious, is that YOUR ACTIONS DON'T MATCH YOUR WORDS. It's nonsensical.

If Canadians - or anyone else, for that matter - feel that the US is too big and too powerful, and that it can "corrupt" other countries with its negative influences if allowed to - and most of you have expressed that opinion on these threads at one time or another - then it seems to me that the best solution, the easiest and surest solution, is to NOT allow it to. STOP helping to make the US so powerful. Doesn't that make sense?

It's very logical. But some of you don't want to hear it. You choose, instead, to distort, ignore, and dismiss.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by BruSan

I'm confused; it was my perhaps mistaken belief that a generalized "mindset" and "outlook on life" were two very important defining aspects of those things describing a cultural uniqueness.

They're not always related to culture.

Ann Coulter and Jon Stewart are of the same culture but their mindset, outlook on life and vision of society are diametrically opposed.

People of the same culture as me don't necessarily think the exact same way as me. That idea is ridiculous.

And people from very different cultures than mine may share my mindset and outlook on life.

[Anders Karlsson]

Originally Posted by newdixiegirl

Uh, if I'm one of the ex-pats you're talking about, sir, I HAVE NEVER SAID ANYTHING OF THE KIND. Please stop putting words into my mouth or hearing what you want to hear.

I've essentially said (and you can review my posts, if you like, for confirmation) that Canadians CHOOSE to saturate themselves in things American (culture, news, leisure, etc). They CHOOSE, in many ways, to be a facsimile of the US. Far too much, imo, IF they also fear, as they often claim they do, of being swallowed up by the US. IF they also feel, as they almost all say they do, that the US is too powerful a country and its influence too widespread.

The problem is NOT that you consume American culture or winter in Florida, per se - however much you insist that that's what I and others have suggested. The problem, which is obvious, is that YOUR ACTIONS DON'T MATCH YOUR WORDS. It's nonsensical.

If Canadians - or anyone else, for that matter - feel that the US is too big and too powerful, and that it can "corrupt" other countries with its negative influences if allowed to - and most of you have expressed that opinion on these threads at one time or another - then it seems to me that the best solution, the easiest and surest solution, is to NOT allow it to. STOP helping to make the US so powerful. Doesn't that make sense?

It's very logical. But some of you don't want to hear it. You choose, instead, to distort, ignore, and dismiss.

It makes perfect sense to me. It all seems rather contradictory to lament American cultural imperialism as you consume it. It isn`t Americans who spread their culture to Canada, it`s Canadians who prefer it to their own cultural trappings that are doing the spreading. This goes for other countries as well. If you want to deal a blow to the oppressive American regime as you claim, stop feeding them your money everyday. Anyways, it all comes off as childish and whiny since their actions never match their words.