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Old 02-03-2014, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Why don't you kill yourself instead of starting another stupid thread?
Kill myself? someone's cranky.
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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Kill myself? someone's cranky.
No, seriously!
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:33 PM
 
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Sigh... Americans will always pretend they have the best health care in the world regardless of articles like this. They are in the deepest darkest level of denial over their health care situation it's just sad. No one should be forced to go into debt over a medical crisis.
We don't pretend anything , we also don't claim to have the best. Canadians claim their way is the best way yet their lines are long and private health practices are opening up all over Canada. Canadians have come to realize that socialist medicine isn't the only way.

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Old 02-03-2014, 08:37 PM
 
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Ho-hum. I lived in Canada for 20+ years and never waited for treatment--not even once.

What province/city did you live in when you waited? Although some people might mistake your definitive, all-encompassing proclamation as a result of arrogant ignorance, I trust you simply speaking with the confidence of someone who has personally experienced the system firsthand.

Actually, how much exactly does it cost per month to live in, say, Lethbridge versus Thunder Bay? Do you have some exact figures, including median salaries, COL, RRSP contributions, tax credits, the whole package?

OP: City Data is not all that representative of the myriad of American attitudes about Canada. Accents aside, I've found that you can always find the Canadians in the room by asking people to pronounce "process."
Liar...

"Earlier this month, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) released a major survey on international health care waiting lists and policies. Canada is at the bottom of the pack in almost every category. One example among many: 25 per cent of Canadian patients waited more than four months for non-emergency, elective surgery, the highest proportion of any country reported. The figure is 18 per cent in Australia and seven per cent in France, Switzerland and the United States.

When it comes to waiting for health care, Canada is last in line - Week in Review - Macleans.ca

I'm sure you just walk into a doctors office or a walk in Medical Center and walk right into the examining room....lol tell me another fib.
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:39 PM
 
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We don't pretend anything , we also don't claim to have the best. Canadians claim their way is the best way yet their lines are long and private health practices are opening up all over Canada. Canadians have come to realize that socialist medicine isn't the only way.

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Well I just had thyroid surgery for a benign adenoma in November and it didn't cost me a pretty penny. The care I received I would define as world class and my surgeon was so talented my scar is virtually microscopic. I didn't have to "wait" either.
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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Well I just had thyroid surgery for a benign adenoma in November and it didn't cost me a pretty penny. The care I received I would define as world class and my surgeon was so talented my scar is virtually microscopic. I didn't have to "wait" either.

Oh yeah sure the doctor just tossed you on the table and sliced you open that very same day it was diagnosed...I'm sure..
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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Oh yeah sure the doctor just tossed you on the table and sliced you open that very same day it was diagnosed...I'm sure..
Tumor found in mid August, surgery in November? that isn't bad in my books. My MRI was done within two weeks after finding the mass and so was my FNA biopsy that confirmed it was benign. If it had been cancer I would have gotten in by early September.
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Tumor found in mid August, surgery in November? that isn't bad in my books. My MRI was done within two weeks after finding the mass and so was my FNA biopsy that confirmed it was benign. If it had been cancer I would have gotten in by early September.
I know this may be hard for you to believe, but those wait times seem very long to me, as an American.

I had a pain in my right ankle a couple of weeks ago. It was not urgent and not swollen much but it did hurt. I got an appt within three days (after being told that if the pain or swelling was severe, I could come on in that day), had the x-rays done that day, and an MRI done two days later - once again, I could have had it done the next day, but I had a schedule conflict. I have a partially torn Achilles tendon. The doctor could have done surgery on it that same week, but my husband's work schedule prohibited that, so they put me in a robocop boot and I am having surgery in about a week.

I am a member of an Achilles Tendon Injury blog group. There are many Canadians in the group. Their wait times for treatments are amazing to me. Not only that, even with partial tears (which are a sign of degenerative tendons, not a single traumatic injury in most cases), their doctors often opt for very conservative treatment (no surgery) even though the re-injury chances are triple without surgery. The Canadians in that group complain CONSTANTLY about the long waits for simple procedures like MRIs, physical therapy, etc. They also often seem panic stricken about not having the option of surgery, when the odds of a complete and more permanent "fix" are so much higher.

Now - this is no scientific study - it's just my observation in real time with real people this week. Actually, I was very surprised because prior to these discussions, I had a pretty good impression of Canadian medical care.

Some of the people have even told me that their Canadian doctors send them to US facilities occasionally. It's not the patients themselves asking to be sent out of the country - it's their DOCTORS sending them out of the country for treatment. What the heck?
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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Where do these people live then? In the sticks? If I have ever needed an x-ray or something diagnostic, it is always scheduled same or following week. Only thing that seems to have a wait time is cosmetic or non-urgent operations. Hell, two weeks ago I was referred to a surgeon for an appointment to have a third nipple removed. He did it the same day. But either way, making a privatized system wouldn't simply alleviate wait times.

Not sure why the only supposed answer to these healthcare issues is to make it the patient's burden. I don't understand how anyone can think it isn't far worse to deprive certain people of care if they aren't insured or wealthy.
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