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No the article is saying people in Canada are sounding like people in the US and are having a vowel shift and people in the US are sound like people in Canada.
The article is saying older people in Canada still have accent.
So probably the people age 30+ the NON high school or collage kids have more of the accent but the article did not spend much time talking about age or area of country.
And the article did not even get into the north eat part of Canada that have there own very different accent like the French, Newfoundland so on.
Very interesting article never thought they would swap vowel shift.
Comparing the U.S. to Canada is like comparing Israel to Gaza or Syria. They are extremely different countries. Just ask many Canadians who profess to dislike the U.S.
Comparing the U.S. to Canada is like comparing Israel to Gaza or Syria. They are extremely different countries. Just ask many Canadians who profess to dislike the U.S.
Or you could ask any of the MANY Americans who profess complete disdain for Canada and anything Canadian.
Very few Americans ever say anything bad about Canada unlike the many Canadians that bash the US.
You'd be surprised how little the general Canadian talks about Americans in day to day conversation - few and far between. When we do its hardly negative or bashing. I honestly just don't see it.. I have a few really good American friends and actually have struck up some great convo's with Americans in this forum. We even email back and forth and pretty sure at some point will meet them. The truth Is most exchanges between Canadians and Americans is cordial and very friendly! Its not controversial to say but its how it really is.
You'd be surprised how little the general Canadian talks about Americans in day to day conversation - few and far between. When we do its hardly negative or bashing. I honestly just don't see it.. I have a few really good American friends and actually have struck up some great convo's with Americans in this forum. We even email back and forth and pretty sure at some point will meet them. The truth Is most exchanges between Canadians and Americans is cordial and very friendly! Its not controversial to say but its how it really is.
Just look at these forums. I have many relatives in Canada. I generally agree with you but there is definitely a lot more US bashing by Canadians than the reverse.
Just look at these forums. I have many relatives in Canada. I generally agree with you but there is definitely a lot more US bashing by Canadians than the reverse.
In these forums? Really, I think there are some posters who highlight some of the differences (and similarities) from both sides of the 49th but bashing - not really.. Maybe some troll bashers (both sides) but from credible posters in here I don't really see it and if they do its largely tongue in cheek. All said, you have many relatives in Canada and probably friends as I do in the U.S - isn't that a better reflection than an online forum? Just sayin.. By and large I think the feelings on each side are good about the other and I prefer to go by that than let a few bad apples spoil the bunch.
Just look at these forums. I have many relatives in Canada. I generally agree with you but there is definitely a lot more US bashing by Canadians than the reverse.
Ain't buying it.
I spend considerable time in the U.S. every year and have done for the last 20 and can assure you that if engaged deliberately or when the topic happens to come up, I've heard them all, good and terrible.
And how much time do you spend talking with your fellow Americans (other than relatives or forums) specifically about Canada?
Engage them, even casual acquaintances, deliberately to attain an opinion about Canada and you'll get an earful, I guarantee it.
When the average American is confronted with a request for an opinion about Canada and Canadians, they'll run the gamut from "socialist nanny state" to "parasites relying upon the U.S. for protection" with those two being just the most popularly held of many low opinions Americans have no problem expressing about Canada/Canadians.
My favourite from a Vietnam vet in Louisiana was the "How'd y'all go from being a frontier to a socialist nanny state in less than a hundred years?" I answered him: "with skill and determination."
C'mon now; public forums in the U.S. are literally rife with the nonsense.
You'd be surprised how little the general Canadian talks about Americans in day to day conversation - few and far between.
On that I disagree. I have many Canadians I speak with by phone. They are thoroughly versed in U.S. politics and meteorological and other disasters.
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When we do its hardly negative or bashing. I honestly just don't see it.. I have a few really good American friends and actually have struck up some great convo's with Americans in this forum. We even email back and forth and pretty sure at some point will meet them. The truth Is most exchanges between Canadians and Americans is cordial and very friendly! Its not controversial to say but its how it really is.
Most of my relations with Canadians are quite good. But see below.
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Originally Posted by JohnSoCal
Just look at these forums. I have many relatives in Canada. I generally agree with you but there is definitely a lot more US bashing by Canadians than the reverse.
When there is bashing about 90% of the time it is by Canadians of Americans. My second trip to Canada (and the first where I met actual Canadians) was a band exchange trip to Toronto in April 1973. My hosts were very cordial. But the one who was in their high school band, age 16 or 17, i.e. my peer, told me when I inquired if Nixon's recent Ottawa speech about how good relations were among the people was accurate, his response was "not really." Other exchanges have borne out the concept that there is a certain envy or resentment by a distinct minority of Canadians of the U.S.
The idea that there is some type of reasonable "equivalency" in the level of interest (and, as a spinoff of that, in "bashing") between Canadians vis-Ã -vis the U.S. on the one hand, and Americans vis-Ã -vis Canada on the other, is almost enough to cause me to burst into an unstoppable fit of laughter.
I hate to be an a55 with my fellow countrymen (whom I love dearly) but only in Canada or among Canadians can such a claim be made with a straight face.
I wonder how this alleged equal level of interest going across the border in either direction can be reconciled with the apparently unassailable fact (basically a truism among Canadians) that the vast majority of Americans are totally clueless about Canada?
The idea that there is some type of reasonable "equivalency" in the level of interest (and, as a spinoff of that, in "bashing") between Canadians vis-Ã -vis the U.S. on the one hand, and Americans vis-Ã -vis Canada on the other, is almost enough to cause me to burst into an unstoppable fit of laughter.
I hate to be an a55 with my fellow countrymen (whom I love dearly) but only in Canada or among Canadians can such a claim be made with a straight face.
I wonder how this alleged equal level of interest going across the border in either direction can be reconciled with the apparently unassailable fact (basically a truism among Canadians) that the vast majority of Americans are totally clueless about Canada?
A/J; we're, or at least, I'm not talking about equivilancy by any measurable standard. I'm merely pointing out that whenever the topic of Canada comes up in discussion south of the border you will get just as many negative opinions expressed about Canada as you will negatives about the U.S. on boards such as this one where Canadians are engaged by Americans.
No one is challenging the aspect of Americans not spending all their free time bashing Canada or Canadians, or even thinking about Canada at all, until someone or thing directly causes them to discuss Canada. Then they are across the spectrum as opinionated about Canada as they are about France or any other country they don't know anything about but express negative opinions about regardless.
Being clueless about any topic has never stopped anyone from having an opinion.
recap: Americans, when occasioned to, have just as many negative opinions about Canada as Canadians are seen expressing here when occasioned to.
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