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How will Canada as a country benefit? It seems like many people might just pick up and settle in Australia. We lose tonnes of talented people to the US and now we are giving people another option. We might end up on the losing end of the stick here when it all nets out. I won't lie, the allure of warm weather and proximity to the growth in Asia is enticing...especially if I were single in my 20s.
How will Canada as a country benefit? It seems like many people might just pick up and settle in Australia. We lose tonnes of talented people to the US and now we are giving people another option. We might end up on the losing end of the stick here when it all nets out. I won't lie, the allure of warm weather and proximity to the growth in Asia is enticing...especially if I were single in my 20s.
You offset it with cancer causing sun, posionous animals, and spiders bigger than your head.
How will Canada as a country benefit? It seems like many people might just pick up and settle in Australia. We lose tonnes of talented people to the US and now we are giving people another option. We might end up on the losing end of the stick here when it all nets out. I won't lie, the allure of warm weather and proximity to the growth in Asia is enticing...especially if I were single in my 20s.
It's too far away from everywhere - that seems to be the main complaint directed at those countries, even from natives. They stand just as good a chance of losing their population to Canada due to Canada's proximity to the US, and the fact that it is nearer Europe as we do to losing ours.
I can see that the main attraction would be for young people in both countries, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find that Canadian young people would chose to spend their adult lives in Canada for the reasons already stated. I can see a benefit to young Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis in terms of being able to broaden their horizons with an ability to travel and work in other countries but in terms of Canadians, I don't see some sort of massive settlement there. Nor do I see senior citizens, the type who are snowbirds in the US currently, making a move there because it is too far from their children and grandchildren. I don't see any downside at all to opening the borders between our three countries.
It's too far away from everywhere - that seems to be the main complaint directed at those countries, even from natives. They stand just as good a chance of losing their population to Canada due to Canada's proximity to the US, and the fact that it is nearer Europe as we do to losing ours.
I can see that the main attraction would be for young people in both countries, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find that Canadian young people would chose to spend their adult lives in Canada for the reasons already stated. I can see a benefit to young Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis in terms of being able to broaden their horizons with an ability to travel and work in other countries but in terms of Canadians, I don't see some sort of massive settlement there. Nor do I see senior citizens, the type who are snowbirds in the US currently, making a move there because it is too far from their children and grandchildren. I don't see any downside at all to opening the borders between our three countries.
Good points about the distance and isolated nature of Australia. I wasn't implying there would be a mass exodus but I'm not convinced we would gain more than we will lose in terms of talent. Maybe but I'm not sure. Most people who leave to the US for work usually don't come back once they meet a significant other and have a career; the same can happen if we let youth who are born and educated in the Canadian system move away, even if it's far. I just think our focus should be to retain talent in this country and I don't know if this policy would help. It might not do great harm, but it might not do any good either.
So even if you can say there's little downside, there still needs to be some upside for our country. What is the real benefit? If we want young people to travel and live/work in other places for the "experience", this can achieved by other means. For instance, creating an easy visa process to live/work in either country seems more feasible vs. allowing people to pick up and settle in another foreign country at will, including all the administrative issues (taxation, citizenship, border security, social benefits, etc.) this creates. Visas will also help restrict those who we let in country to ensure they add value.
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^^ You are forgetting about all the young Aussie and Kiwi professionals and trades people that could move here and enhance our economy. Remember the open border works both ways...
^^ You are forgetting about all the young Aussie and Kiwi professionals and trades people that could move here and enhance our economy. Remember the open border works both ways...
What do they have that we need or can't build up ourselves?
^^ A warm climate where we can live 365 days a year seriously, it's about bringing people together not about "needs" with that line of thinking, why did confederation happen in canada at all? What does Alberta need from Ontario or Saskatchewan from Manitoba nowadays?
No, I would be adamantly against it. I don't have anything against Australia and New Zealand but I don't think Canada should have any open border policies with any other countries. Not ever. Never. Nada. Nobody.
You might want to start by asking Aussies whether they're in favour of retaining the current Trans Tasman agreement.
Ooops, that would indeed be interesting to know.
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seriously, it's about bringing people together not about "needs" with that line of thinking, why did confederation happen in canada at all? What does Alberta need from Ontario or Saskatchewan from Manitoba nowadays?
