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Old 05-22-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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Austria was annexed by Germany during WWII without a fight.
There were several forces in each of the countries that wanted a Germany-Austria merger. This had been attempted many times before WWII, but had been unsuccessful for many reasons.

Hitler annexed Austria easily because there was a lot of local support (ethnic Germans in Austria) and support from the Austrian National Socialist Party (Austrian Nazi Party).

So, your example is not quite accurate.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:22 AM
 
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There were several forces in each of the countries that wanted a Germany-Austria merger. This had been attempted many times before WWII, but had been unsuccessful for many reasons.

Hitler annexed Austria easily because there was a lot of local support (ethnic Germans in Austria) and support from the Austrian National Socialist Party (Austrian Nazi Party).

So, your example is not quite accurate.
why is my example not accurate?

I was refuting the argument that "no country doesn't put up a flight when being annexed". Apparently that happened in Austria. That's not an argument, that is a historic fact.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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I think you are right. North American hockey at the top pro level doesn't belong to us anymore. It's run out of New York entirely according to the imperatives of the American market. Canada is good to provide cold cash and good players but that's about it. They *allow* us to have seven teams to pacify us and maintain the illusion that it is still our game. Case in point: no Canadian team has won the Stanley cup in 20 years (soon to be 21) which is supposed to be for the CANADIAN club championship of hockey.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...e-stanley-cup/
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:26 AM
 
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why is my example not accurate?

I was refuting the argument that "no country doesn't put up a flight when being annexed". Apparently that happened in Austria. That's not an argument, that is a historic fact.
Well, they didnt fight because they didnt want to. They were not being annexed, it was willful.

It was a Heim ins Reich
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Canada
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No one IS taking it seriously except the OP presumably. There have been a few more serious attempts made to point out to him just why his scenario is too far out to be taken seriously. I dunno. It seems to me that conspiracy theories are much more popular among Americans and far-out scenarios are given more credence south of the border than here.

I think I already pointed out in one post that there's a world of a difference between a gradual assimilation by the likes of McDonalds and Walmart and the completely hostile takeover mentioned by the OP. In fact, under the conditions of the OP's scenario, it really wouldn't matter which country it was who annexed Canada, so it's not even anti-Americanism involved here. NO citizens of ANY country in the world would just sit by while their country was invaded and that is the principle that posters here are addressing, including some Americans.

And I assume the OP is very young.
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Austria was annexed by Germany during WWII without a fight.
Botticelli, tsk, tsk. You are taking words out of context. I have repeatedly made the point in pretty well every post I made that MY point is addressing the OP's scenario, which involved a government against an annexation, and from which, since we are a democracy, it can also be inferred that the people would be against a hostile annexation, that it could never happen that people would just sit by.

Austria was not an innocent victim invaded by Germany no matter how they want to play it now, as though WW2 was all about Germany while the Germans turn Hitler into an Austrian in order to mitigate what happened. An Anschluss (unification) was specifically forbidden by the Treaty of Versailles. The Austrians cheered when the Germans marched in. And I'm also sure you know all this, that there is no correlation between the situation as presented by the OP and Germany-Austria.

But if you want to use Austria-Germany as an example, then just as that attempt at unification ended in disaster, the scenario outlined by the OP would be the end of the US.

ETA: This is embarrassing but I've immensely enjoyed this silly thread. It must have been the long winter or something.

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Old 05-22-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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Botticelli, tsk, tsk.


ETA: This is embarrassing but I've immensely enjoyed this silly thread. It must have been the long winter or something.
I know! That occurred to me the other day when I found myself chuckling at Botty coming in right on cue and re-reading my own offering and thinking: my, how predictable we can all be given certain conditions.

I'm still giggling at the thought of Kuchief driving a Humvee and sliding into a ditch (a 700' deep ditch in Roger's Pass mayhaps) after venturing onto a patch of the TransCanada sabotaged with genuine Mennonite MAPLE SYRUP! They might find him a few weeks later still licking the tires.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Bright lights Baked Ziti
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American woman, get away from me
American woman, mama, let me be
Don't come a-knockin' around my door
Don't wanna see your shadow no more
Coloured lights can hypnotize
Sparkle someone else's eyes
Now woman, I said get away
American woman, listen what I say, hey

Fight. To the death, if necessary.
We'd destroy your livers with our strong beer and clog your arteries with poutine and fine French pastries. Take that!
LOL, we can never do that to Canada. Canada is just too beautiful to mess up.
The way Americans eat, it would probably work.
BTW, I never had Canadian poutine, am I missing out?
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I know! That occurred to me the other day when I found myself chuckling at Botty coming in right on cue and re-reading my own offering and thinking: my, how predictable we can all be given certain conditions.

I'm still giggling at the thought of Kuchief driving a Humvee and sliding into a ditch (a 700' deep ditch in Roger's Pass mayhaps) after venturing onto a patch of the TransCanada sabotaged with genuine Mennonite MAPLE SYRUP! They might find him a few weeks later still licking the tires.
What I was thinking would be fun was to write a whole spoof story about a US invasion as envisioned by the OP. Something completely slapstick and mad hatterish.
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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What I was thinking would be fun was to write a whole spoof story about a US invasion as envisioned by the OP. Something completely slapstick and mad hatterish.
Where's John Candy when you really, really need him and want him?

Rick Mercer holding one tin can attached by a string running all the way across four provinces reporting on American troop movements to the other end of the string with a can held by Leslie Nielson answering "surely you can't be serious?" You just know what Rick's objection is gonna be ~ right?
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Yes poutine can be really good, but stay away from the chain places like MCD, and KFC, theirs are crap. What you should be looking for is a local place that only serves poutine, and has at least 20 types on the menu.

The three basics are...........Fresh potatoes, cut that day, and never EVER frozen. Fresh from the diary farm, cheddar cheese curds, that squeak when you bite into them, and home made gravy. It can be veal gravy, chicken gravy, or even tomato sauce. Now you can add a big list of "extras " such as mushrooms, shredded peperoni, anchovies, Montreal Smoked Meat, ground hamburger, and on and on.

The original concept came out of a rural café in Quebec, in the late 1950's.

Here is a link about it.

Poutine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The potatoes are double fried, and are crispy on the outside, but soft inside. The cheese curds are cold, the fries are hot and so is the gravy, so the cheese melts into the fries. In my opinion the best potatoes are the russet variety, grown in Prince Edward Island.

Jim b.

Toronto.
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