What is Canada's fourth city? (sales, lawyers, food)

[botticelli]

Originally Posted by netwit

cities = waste of good farm land.

for me

farmland, suburbs. or anywhere buildings are under 4 stories = waste of good land for condos and retail.
Every time when I drive between Toronto and Kingston/London/Barrie/Niagara Falls, I say to myself, there should be a city of 500k here!

[netwit]

Originally Posted by botticelli

for me

farmland, suburbs. or anywhere buildings are under 4 stories = waste of good land for condos and retail.
Every time when I drive between Toronto and Kingston/London/Barrie/Niagara Falls, I say to myself, there should be a city of 500k here!

I remember that thread.

[Champ le monstre du lac]

Originally Posted by botticelli

for me

farmland, suburbs. or anywhere buildings are under 4 stories = waste of good land for condos and retail.
Every time when I drive between Toronto and Kingston/London/Barrie/Niagara Falls, I say to myself, there should be a city of 500k here!

You should move to Sao Paulo. That kind of vertical sprawl looks like NY threw up on LA.

[botticelli]

Originally Posted by Desert_SW_77

You should move to Sao Paulo. That kind of vertical sprawl looks like NY threw up on LA.

I don't like too much sprawl. I prefer Paris/Barcelona kind of city with primarily midrise (6-10s) buildings yet remain incredibly dense (4-5 times denser than Toronto) due to the absence of 1-3 story houses with yards or strip malls.

but between farmland or rural land and skyscrapers, I pick the latter any day.

[Glacierx]

Originally Posted by botticelli

Not just in total official population, but more importantly in terms of urban vibe, density, skyline, city amenities (number of restaurants, bars, theatres etc).

Ottawa? Calgary? Edmonton? Quebec City?

Which city do you expect to grow strong in the 20 years in terms of the above things?

You forgot about Winterpeg. I would say Calgary because it is only one of three cities in Canada with over 1,000,000 people (Toronto and Montreal are the other two).

[GM10]

Originally Posted by Glacierx

You forgot about Winterpeg. I would say Calgary because it is only one of three cities in Canada with over 1,000,000 people (Toronto and Montreal are the other two).

The metro area is really what counts in terms of population so it is one of the 5 cities with over 1,000,000 people. (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa and Calgary.)

[Glacierx]

Originally Posted by GM10

The metro area is really what counts in terms of population so it is one of the 5 cities with over 1,000,000 people. (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa and Calgary.)

Well Calgary proper is over 1 million. Anyway, Calgary's economy is bigger than Vancouver's (metro area), so that's got to count as well.

[GM10]

Originally Posted by GM10

The metro area is really what counts in terms of population so it is one of the 5 cities with over 1,000,000 people. (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa and Calgary.)

I mean 6. Forgot about Edmonton.

[BIMBAM]

Originally Posted by Glacierx

Well Calgary proper is over 1 million. Anyway, Calgary's economy is bigger than Vancouver's (metro area), so that's got to count as well.

That is also not true. According to Brookings in 2012 the GDP of Calgary was 79.2 billion dollars and the GDP of greater Vancouver was 101.2 billion. Calgary's grown lots in 2 years, but not that much, and Vancouver is hardly some economic laggard, growth has also been fairly robust out here if not quite as strong as Calgary's. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, Vancouver is still more then twice as big a city and Calgary has not outmuscled it despite being strong for its size.

[mooguy]

Ya, I was thinking the same thing.

I know Alberta's economy is significantly larger than BC and the population will probably be bigger within 10 years but I have never heard of Calgary having a larger economy than Metro Vancouver.