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Old 09-20-2019, 05:18 AM
 
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I can't imagine living in Canada given how low wages are there. $45,000 per capita GDP? 1/3rd lower than the U.S? Even with all the oil money? wtf?

I know quite a few Canadian natives in the tech industry here, and to a person none will move to work in Toronto or Vancouver due to the low wages.
And yet, while Canada climbed to # 9 in the latest Social Progress Index, the US fell to #26, worse than ever.

Something tells me wages are not that relevant anymore.

https://www.socialprogress.org/?tab=3

 
Old 09-20-2019, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Something tells me wages are not that relevant anymore.
Yes, people can now live off of the earnings they receive from reading random surveys.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Find it interesting that US companies raise $130 billion/year in VC, while Canadian companies only raise $4 billion. No top tier investor or entrepreneur stays up there. There isn't a Canadian Tesla, Apple, Google, Facebook, or Genentech, and there isn't about to be.
Nortel, which got devastated by Huawei and BlackBerry, just off the top of my head.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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Yes, people can now live off of the earnings they receive from reading random surveys.
Yes, because a study based on the writings of Joseph Stiglitz, Amartya Sen and 44 different indicators is the same as doing a survey.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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We moved to find the sun.

I don't do winter.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I can't imagine living in Canada given how low wages are there. $45,000 per capita GDP? 1/3rd lower than the U.S? Even with all the oil money? wtf?

I know quite a few Canadian natives in the tech industry here, and to a person none will move to work in Toronto or Vancouver due to the low wages.

See, that post right there just exemplifies the reason and provides the most simple answer to the question that was asked "Why Do So Many More Canadians Move To America Than Americans Move To Canada?"

It's all about the money cult, better known as the cult of Mammon, and its worshipers, the Mammonites.

There are so many more American Mammonites who place the acquisition of vast quantities of money and riches far ahead of all their other values and virtues, they worship it, and the majority of Canadians don't, they have other values and the cult is discouraged in Canada.

So the Canadian Mammonites that worship money the same way move to the states to join the American money cult where Mammonism is encouraged and they are welcomed. But there's no way the American cult members would break faith with the cult and move to Canada because there is nothing there for them, no encouragement. The American cultists would become misfits, like displaced or disowned persons, DP's who can't accommodate themselves to Canadian values so they'd either shrivel up and die or they'd have to move back to where they came from.

The Americans who do move to Canada and enjoy it are never members of the American cult of Mammon, they move to Canada to escape from American Mammonism.

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Old 09-20-2019, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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See, that post right there just exemplifies the reason and provides the most simple answer to the question that was asked "Why Do So Many More Canadians Move To America Than Americans Move To Canada?"

It's all about the money cult, better known as the cult of Mammon, and its worshipers, the Mammonites.

There are so many more American Mammonites who place the acquisition of vast quantities of money and riches far ahead of all their other values and virtues, they worship it, and the majority of Canadians don't, they have other values and the cult is discouraged in Canada.

So the Canadian Mammonites that worship money the same way move to the states to join the American money cult where Mammonism is encouraged and they are welcomed, but there's no way the American cult members would break faith with the cult and move to Canada because there is nothing there for them. The American cultists would become misfits, like displaced or disowned persons, who can't accommodate themselves to Canadian values so they'd either shrivel up and die or they'd have to move back to where they came from.

The Americans who do move to Canada and enjoy it are never members of the American cult of Mammon, they move to Canada to escape from American Mammonism.

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So anyone who wants to be as successful as possible by moving to the USA is an evil monster. Got it.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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Isn't it kind of obvious? The U.S. has higher salaries for professionals, and more opportunities for professional advancement.

If you have a choice between being a, say, doctor, lawyer, or corporate exec in U.S. and Canada, all things equal, you're probably gonna choose the U.S., because salaries/opportunities are much greater in U.S.

My brother is actually marrying a Toronto-residing medical resident, and they're gonna live in Metro Detroit, for obvious reasons. She'll make twice as much in U.S. Add in lower taxes, much cheaper housing and better medical care, and it isn't close. Their kids can go to University of Michigan, which is probably better than any school in Canada. They can move to the Sunbelt and have warm weather, which isn't available in Canada. They can move to NYC or LA, and live in cosmopolitan megacities which aren't available in Canada.

Canada is better for people who want a safety net, but U.S. is better for people who want advancement (speaking very generally). Both countries have their positive and negatives, of course, but opportunities for professionals aren't remotely similar.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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See, that post right there just exemplifies the reason and provides the most simple answer to the question that was asked "Why Do So Many More Canadians Move To America Than Americans Move To Canada?"

It's all about the money cult, better known as the cult of Mammon, and its worshipers, the Mammonites.

There are so many more American Mammonites who place the acquisition of vast quantities of money and riches far ahead of all their other values and virtues, they worship it, and the majority of Canadians don't, they have other values and the cult is discouraged in Canada.

So the Canadian Mammonites that worship money the same way move to the states to join the American money cult where Mammonism is encouraged and they are welcomed. But there's no way the American cult members would break faith with the cult and move to Canada because there is nothing there for them, no encouragement. The American cultists would become misfits, like displaced or disowned persons, DP's who can't accommodate themselves to Canadian values so they'd either shrivel up and die or they'd have to move back to where they came from.

The Americans who do move to Canada and enjoy it are never members of the American cult of Mammon, they move to Canada to escape from American Mammonism.

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How absurd!
 
Old 09-20-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Canada
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So anyone who wants to be as successful as possible by moving to the USA is an evil monster. Got it.

No my dear, that's your interpretation, not mine. You must be feeling guilty about it if that's the conclusion you come to. I never implied that it's evil, just said it's a cult. It's just another type of addictive religion and very few if any addicted religionists or cultists ever consider themselves to be evil nor have the intent to be seen as being evil. They all just have different values and the addiction to money is what gets Mammonites' serotonin levels kicked up into high gear and gets them high.


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