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Not sure what context you are using Quebec Libre but at this point Quebec is a Canadian province where Canada's francophone minority live, their freedoms are what the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms dictate. However through its bill101 it has the freedom to enact any legislation that would be considered beneficial to the protection of the French language so in that sense Quebec has more freedom than any other minority in Canada.
Not sure what context you are using Quebec Libre but at this point Quebec is a Canadian province where Canada's francophone minority live, their freedoms are what the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms dictate. However through its bill101 it has the freedom to enact any legislation that would be considered beneficial to the protection of the French language so in that sense Quebec has more freedom than any other minority in Canada.
I am not sure that bill 101 follows the charter of right spirit, since it is oriented toward collective rights, which was a major disagreement of the last constitutionnal negociations.
French language is a majority in Qc since 1534, so remembering them to become minority in Canada is probably not a very attractive way to sell Canada to quebecers.
Also I think its important to specify that french canadians are a founding people of Canada, so I guess there is a certain level of freedom that was gained through time. So comparing french Quebecers to other minority is irrelevant IMHO.
I am not sure that bill 101 follows the charter of right spirit, since it is oriented toward collective rights, which was a major disagreement of the last constitutionnal negociations.
French language is a majority in Qc since 1534, so remembering them to become minority in Canada is probably not a very attractive way to sell Canada to quebecers.
Also I think its important to specify that french canadians are a founding people of Canada, so I guess there is a certain level of freedom that was gained through time. So comparing french Quebecers to other minority is irrelevant IMHO.
While French may have been a big deal in North America back in 1534 its now 2015 and in the context of North America the french language has diminished to a very insignificant minority.
Selling Canada to Quebeckers seems a rather pointless exercise as it seems to me Quebec doesnt really want anything to do with Canada and strives to be a unilingual French enclave within the greater Canadian collective,i also think the majority of Canadians couldnt care less about Quebec.
And while Quebec may have been a force in the founding of Canada so were the English who also deserve as much respect as the francophone,something i dont see happening in Quebec due to bill101.
Guy would you agree that its time for Quebec to define its own destiny rather than remaining just a Canadian province?.
While French may have been a big deal in North America back in 1534 its now 2015 and in the context of North America the french language has diminished to a very insignificant minority.
Selling Canada to Quebeckers seems a rather pointless exercise as it seems to me Quebec doesnt really want anything to do with Canada and strives to be a unilingual French enclave within the greater Canadian collective,i also think the majority of Canadians couldnt care less about Quebec.
And while Quebec may have been a force in the founding of Canada so were the English who also deserve as much respect as the francophone, something i dont see happening in Quebec due to bill101.
Guy would you agree that its time for Quebec to define its own destiny rather than remaining just a Canadian province?.
Bill 101 was made in reaction of a context that anyone living in Quebec know very well, and I doubt that Anglophone had to face anything similar. Without this bill, french language in Quebec much more insignificant than it is now, especially in working environment IMHO. In the ROC there is no need for a Bill XYZ because everything happen in English period, nothing prevent you to use any language, but there is nothing you will be able to do other than in English anyway. I don't believe multiple official language per province/country. Canada worked hard to consolidate french and english, it end up into assimilation of both english in ROC and french in Qc.
Quebec on its own? I believe it would be a good thing for the sake of both Qc and Canada, It would eliminate the question forever and we would be able to finally close this thread and start a new one "was it legitimate for Qc to become independant"....but also because Quebecers would become probably more concerned about the success of their nation, since there is nothing or nobody else to blame anymore....can't use the federal govt. as scapegoat anymore.
Bill 101 was made in reaction of a context that anyone living in Quebec know very well, and I doubt that Anglophone had to face anything similar. Without this bill, french language in Quebec much more insignificant than it is now, especially in working environment IMHO. In the ROC there is no need for a Bill XYZ because everything happen in English period, nothing prevent you to use any language, but there is nothing you will be able to do other than in English anyway. I don't believe multiple official language per province/country. Canada worked hard to consolidate french and english, it end up into assimilation of both english in ROC and french in Qc.
Quebec on its own? I believe it would be a good thing for the sake of both Qc and Canada, It would eliminate the question forever and we would be able to finally close this thread and start a new one "was it legitimate for Qc to become independant"....but also because Quebecers would become probably more concerned about the success of their nation, since there is nothing or nobody else to blame anymore....can't use the federal govt. as scapegoat anymore.
I agree for the most part, but it is always easier to keep a status quo than move forward. I think we can all agree that Canada can't stay the way it is. It isn't expedient. At some point it needs to be decided that Quebec either stays or goes, it's become very clear that there is no in between. The ROC doesn't want Quebec ideas for reforming Canada. The two visions are at odds. Either Quebec has to give up it's vision for Canada and become just another province sooner or later, or else Quebec needs to accept that it's a different country and move on.
I agree for the most part, but it is always easier to keep a status quo than move forward. I think we can all agree that Canada can't stay the way it is. It isn't expedient. At some point it needs to be decided that Quebec either stays or goes, it's become very clear that there is no in between. The ROC doesn't want Quebec ideas for reforming Canada. The two visions are at odds. Either Quebec has to give up it's vision for Canada and become just another province sooner or later, or else Quebec needs to accept that it's a different country and move on.
I agree, and hopefully what you describe become clear in voters mind ASAP, the problem for now is that neither options are popular. Independance is not strong enough and accepting Canada as is, would probably score worst. It's like if people are in a perpetual wait and see mode.
I agree, and hopefully what you describe become clear in voters mind ASAP, the problem for now is that neither options are popular. Independence is not strong enough and accepting Canada as is, would probably score worst. It's like if people are in a perpetual wait and see mode.
Right. I don't things are going to come to a head soon either. At least until PKP really gets going.
You really believe that jambo votes for the PQ? Seriously?
I'm an anglophone and I voted for Marois. We are out there. There is a growing demographic of anglophones who are tired of the status quo and just want to get it over with. I wouldn't be surprised if jambo is among this group of realists.
I'm an anglophone and I voted for Marois. We are out there. There is a growing demographic of anglophones who are tired of the status quo and just want to get it over with. I wouldn't be surprised if jambo is among this group of realists.
I did leave twice but was here when Marois ran, left again, and now I am back once again.
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