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Indeed. For some reason there is a lingering inaccurate perception out there (in Quebec and even in the ROC sometimes) that the Constitution legally does not apply to Quebec because the province did not sign it.
Questions of symbolism and even political legitimacy are a whole other matter of course.
Constitution certainly apply to Qc from CA stand point, but I think, the situation leaves grey areas for contests
If the parliament was to abolish the senate, all provinces would have to agree, right?. So, what if not, if the parliament was to decide to change the senate with a majority of provinces agreement, let's say IPE and NB refuse, what would be the impact? I think the credibility in the democratic foundation of the federation would be seriously damaged.
Quebec signing the constitution is probably more important than most people think, especially for those who believe in democraty and in Qc as being part of the Canadian constitution
Constitution certainly apply to Qc from CA stand point, but I think, the situation leaves grey areas for contests
If the parliament was to abolish the senate, all provinces would have to agree, right?. So, what if not, if the parliament was to decide to change the senate with a majority of provinces agreement, let's say IPE and NB refuse, what would be the impact? I think the credibility in the democratic foundation of the federation would be seriously damaged.
Quebec signing the constitution is probably more important than most people think, especially for those who believe in democraty and in Qc as being part of the Canadian constitution
Not to mention it's so very bad for optics to have the original heartland of Canada where the names ''Canada'' and ''Canadians'' (Canadiens) originated, in addition to being home to the country's biggest foundational minority, not singing onto the country's fundamental legal document.
It also raises the suspicion that the larger Canada may have lost its way, or at least betrayed its roots and its origins. Not saying I think that, but it's out there.
Quebec signing the constitution is probably more important than most people think, especially for those who believe in democracy and in Qc as being part of the Canadian constitution
Guy no one in the ROC really cares about Quebec or if Quebec becomes part of the Canadian constitution, that ship sailed a long time ago.
Guy no one in the ROC really cares about Quebec or if Quebec becomes part of the Canadian constitution, that ship sailed a long time ago.
I will go further, I don't think ROC citizens really ever care that much about Qc in or not in Canada...It's a political matter that bother much more those who make money out of tax payers and those who want to be in power.
I will go further, I don't think ROC citizens really ever care that much about Qc in or not in Canada...It's a political matter that bother much more those who make money out of tax payers and those who want to be in power.
I'm not sure if its so much that the R.O.C doesn't care that much about Quebec because I think largely we do but I think the caring is pretty rudimentary... If we are talking about politics, legal documents and history that most probably aren't too caught up in because life demands require much more blood, sweat and tears than worrying about all these paper details than well yes, most Canadians just don't have the time, energy nor the knowledge to worry about this stuff. Don't take it personally Guytar, most people in the world don't really worry about these things to the degree a bunch of City Data wonks do
I will go further, I don't think ROC citizens really ever care that much about Qc in or not in Canada...It's a political matter that bother much more those who make money out of tax payers and those who want to be in power.
As much as this might sound extremely contradictory, I'd say that the vast majority of ROC Canadians do want Quebec to stay in Canada and are sincere in their feelings about this, even though the reasons for feeling this way are often superficial.
I'm not sure if its so much that the R.O.C doesn't care that much about Quebec because I think largely we do but I think the caring is pretty rudimentary... If we are talking about politics, legal documents and history that most probably aren't too caught up in because life demands require much more blood, sweat and tears than worrying about all these paper details than well yes, most Canadians just don't have the time, energy nor the knowledge to worry about this stuff. Don't take it personally Guytar, most people in the world don't really worry about these things to the degree a bunch of City Data wonks do
I don't mean that ROC citizen don't care because they don't give a d...but more because they have other things to worry about that are way more concrete to their lives and because they don't see the use of messing with the constitution.
I don't take it personally believe me, just a quick look at Guy Nantel vox pop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGiN-_6Qk_E) and it confirms how people know about politic, especiallly when you know that it took only 1 hrs to gather all the content of the videos.
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As much as this might sound extremely contradictory, I'd say that the vast majority of ROC Canadians do want Quebec to stay in Canada and are sincere in their feelings about this, even though the reasons for feeling this way are often superficial.
Does that make sense?
Oh yes it does, I have no idea why, but it really does!!
Strong feeling with hidden subconscious reason kind of thing
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