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The movement was looking as close to dead as it’s been in decades but unfortunately the Bloc made a major comeback in the last 2 federal elections. That combined with the prairies embrace of American style right-wing nationalism and the country is the most divided it’s been in decades
The Prairies have not adopted anything American right-wing, that is how they are. Don't blame Canadas problems on the US. Canada's claim to fame is being an American satellite. Canada is divided because it is a fabricated country and Trudeau the bought out has exacerbated the problem.
The Prairies have not adopted anything American right-wing, that is how they are. Don't blame Canadas problems on the US. Canada's claim to fame is being an American satellite. Canada is divided because it is a fabricated country and Trudeau the bought out has exacerbated the problem.
The prairies were once a mecca of democratic socialism with strong public enterprises and private co-operatives. This has slowly been dismantled over the years because of politics imported from the United States. Small farms have been driven to near extinction, large corporations have been buying up the public sector at wholesale so younger people might not remember how things once were but we shouldn’t forget Tommy Douglas’ movement to fight for universal healthcare started in rural Saskatchewan.
Hey Fusion, what do you think about disentegrating Canada, and allowing each province to choose to become an independent constituency?
Probably not a good idea. We are not living in a cocoon as recent global events constantly remind us. There is strength in certain ways with maintaining our current borders and maintaining a Federal identity. I mean there may be some ideological and cultural benefits to 'disintegration' as you state on a more micro level, but the practical difficulties of any Province going it alone so to speak, would prove extremely challenging on the ground. That said, I am in favour of local empowerment as well. its a balance we have to strike and usually, we seem to pull that off in this country. It may not be at an optimal level, but practicably, it is working.
I would not be in favour of forcing a jurisdiction however, to remain in a union that it has the clear mandate of the majority of its people wanting to secede. For example Quebec or Alberta comes to mind but really any Province. So I do think to answer the question of this thread, is Quebec independence a legitimate movement. My answer would be yes it is and if anything, other Provinces including my own should be so empowered if it had or were to develop such a movement.
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The Prairies have not adopted anything American right-wing, that is how they are. Don't blame Canadas problems on the US. Canada's claim to fame is being an American satellite. Canada is divided because it is a fabricated country and Trudeau the bought out has exacerbated the problem.
Well in fairness to the Prairie Provinces, I think they have their own way that is not a carbon copy of U.S style Right Wing nationalism. Generally, they are much more grounded and rooted in reality. That said, please elaborate on what you mean by Canada being a 'fabricated' country. She is not perfect but I am very hesitant to look at any country that doesn't have a sort of 'uneasy' union among factions. That issue isn't unique to Canada, it is a never ending part of the human story and exists in practically every country on earth. I'm not saying this to make excuses for Canada, but singling out the country for this is being opaque to the world around us and to the histories of those countries.
The Prairies have not adopted anything American right-wing, that is how they are. Don't blame Canadas problems on the US. Canada's claim to fame is being an American satellite. Canada is divided because it is a fabricated country and Trudeau the bought out has exacerbated the problem.
Canada is anything but fabricated. It was the remainder of British North America that chose loyalty to the Crown rather than independence. I love my country but in many ways I wish we were a constitutional monarchy. With Nixon in 1973-4, and now Biden, we are seeing problems with not being able to remove the prime minister equivalent. Some would argue Trump as well.
When government is not functioning we have no deux ex machina, or easy fix.
The three provinces in the East will flounder seperated in the East.
Oh how mighty CANADA will have fallen.
While this makes talk on City Data , my relatives in 5 of the Provinces , say they would NEVER go along with the exit of Quebec.
All after dinner talk in the Winter.
The prairies were once a mecca of democratic socialism with strong public enterprises and private co-operatives. This has slowly been dismantled over the years because of politics imported from the United States. Small farms have been driven to near extinction, large corporations have been buying up the public sector at wholesale so younger people might not remember how things once were but we shouldn’t forget Tommy Douglas’ movement to fight for universal healthcare started in rural Saskatchewan.
You still haven't proven anything like this is American. It is globalism, and it is affecting everyone. Canada for example, has pioneered the transgender degeneracy ahead of the USA (See Bill C16), and pioneered identity politics in general ahead of the US. LGBT pushing is a corporate agenda to control people. Canada is the one that has major corporate triopolies like Bell/Rogers/Telus and people make 40% less than American citizens.
It is time for Canadians to stop living in fantasy-land where Canada is a default utopia fighting the evil USA.
Well in fairness to the Prairie Provinces, I think they have their own way that is not a carbon copy of U.S style Right Wing nationalism. Generally, they are much more grounded and rooted in reality. .
Rooted in reality? They are much poorer than the American prairies, and have a much lower standard of living, despite having the same resources.
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That said, please elaborate on what you mean by Canada being a 'fabricated' country. She is not perfect but I am very hesitant to look at any country that doesn't have a sort of 'uneasy' union among factions. That issue isn't unique to Canada, it is a never ending part of the human story and exists in practically every country on earth. I'm not saying this to make excuses for Canada, but singling out the country for this is being opaque to the world around us and to the histories of those countries.
Canada is a forced unification of the British North America leftovers. There is no unifying culture or values. Most Canadians are kind of like off-brsnd spin-off Americans. You know, like the sequel that let everyone forgot about. Godfather 3. Not a real country like USA, Mexico, France, etc.
Canada is anything but fabricated. It was the remainder of British North America that chose loyalty to the Crown rather than independence. I love my country but in many ways I wish we were a constitutional monarchy. With Nixon in 1973-4, and now Biden, we are seeing problems with not being able to remove the prime minister equivalent. Some would argue Trump as well.
When government is not functioning we have no deux ex machina, or easy fix.
You wish Israel was a monarchy? I guess it would give Israel some more legitimacy in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
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