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It's a great strategy. So the Quebecois actually needed more like 62% to win their independence, and today would need probably around 70% to win their independence. We should just come out and say they aren't allowed to have their own country instead of beating around the bush. There's no reason to leave them with a sense of false hope.
Throw in the Clarity act to make it even more convoluted... Have you read the key points in that?
I wonder how many anglophones just left after voting anyways? That's the difference, anglophones have a huge country to go to, and Quebec is all the francophones have. On the other hand, anglophones should have a voice in the vote, but then as now I couldn't help but notice the double standard. 20 years later, still no one is happy with the state of Quebec.
I wonder how many anglophones just left after voting anyways? That's the difference, anglophones have a huge country to go to, and Quebec is all the francophones have. On the other hand, anglophones should have a voice in the vote, but then as now I couldn't help but notice the double standard. 20 years later, still no one is happy with the state of Quebec.
Actually this is a good point but Montreal has a very solid history of Anglo roots there no? Historically Montreal was 'the' place for culture in all of Canada so I would imagine the Anglophones who remain there feel a strong historical connection to the place..
Throw in the Clarity act to make it even more convoluted... Have you read the key points in that?
That's what I mean, with the Clarity Act the Quebecois would probably need 70% of the vote, even 75%. It is rare for a population to vote for anything at 75%.
I harp on the French Quebeckers, but if I was a Quebecois I would be 100% for independence. I don't understand why 39% of them were willing to sell out their own people.
That's what I mean, with the Clarity Act the Quebecois would probably need 70% of the vote, even 75%. It is rare for a population to vote for anything at 75%.
I harp on the French Quebeckers, but if I was a Quebecois I would be 100% for independence. I don't understand why 39% of them were willing to sell out their own people.
Well I think its the diverse human dynamic thing here and I do think that as much as people like to dismiss this, there's obviously a complicated set of reasons why many Quebecers - even Francophones want to stay in Canada.. Perhaps they don't buy the our language and identity are jeapordized remaining in Canada sentiment and they can still chart the future they want within. Perhaps they don't think that an independent Quebec is in Quebecs best interest. As frustrating as the Pbeau's are there are some of him, there are probably even some Pro-Canada Francophone Quebecers as well who aren't as eager for a split and the unknown that that brings.. Also don't discount the fact that sometimes we're just creatures of habit..
Well I think its the diverse human dynamic thing here and I do think that as much as people like to dismiss this, there's obviously a complicated set of reasons why many Quebecers - even Francophones want to stay in Canada.. Perhaps they don't buy the our language and identity are jeapordized remaining in Canada sentiment and they can still chart the future they want within. Perhaps they don't think that an independent Quebec is in Quebecs best interest. As frustrating as the Pbeau's are there are some of him, there are probably even some Pro-Canada Francophone Quebecers as well who aren't as eager for a split and the unknown that that brings.. Also don't discount the fact that sometimes we're just creatures of habit..
Brilliantly said fusion2, although I don't know why you continue to single me out for slander. I am pro-Canada, not a separatist.
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Originally Posted by babyblue1987
That's what I mean, with the Clarity Act the Quebecois would probably need 70% of the vote, even 75%. It is rare for a population to vote for anything at 75%.
I harp on the French Quebeckers, but if I was a Quebecois I would be 100% for independence. I don't understand why 39% of them were willing to sell out their own people.
It is not a matter of selling out your people. Some of us feel that separation is not what we need yet, some are attached to the idea of Canada, and there are still more who feel Canada gives us more economic opportunities than independence. There are many reasons for being pro-Canada. The reasons are as varied as the individuals themselves.
That's what I mean, with the Clarity Act the Quebecois would probably need 70% of the vote, even 75%. It is rare for a population to vote for anything at 75%.
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The Clarity Act does not set a threshold and there is a reason for that. Nobody wants to put a number out there. And no one likely will if ever we have another referendum.
I wonder how many anglophones just left after voting anyways? That's the difference, anglophones have a huge country to go to, and Quebec is all the francophones have. On the other hand, anglophones should have a voice in the vote, but then as now I couldn't help but notice the double standard. .
You can't have a referendum like that and just have the francophones voting. Who's a francophone and who's an anglophone anyway? Some people are kind of both. It makes no sense. The only way that is legally legitimate is to have everyone who is both a citizen of Canada and resident of the province be allowed to vote.
You can't have a referendum like that and just have the francophones voting. Who's a francophone and who's an anglophone anyway? Some people are kind of both. It makes no sense. The only way that is legally legitimate is to have everyone who is both a citizen of Canada and resident of the province be allowed to vote.
That is ridiculous. That is practically sovereignty.
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