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View Poll Results: I am voting for this person!
Stephen Harper, Conservative Party 15 31.25%
Tom Mulcair, NDP 10 20.83%
Elizabeth May, Green Party 3 6.25%
Gilles Duceppe, Bloc Quebecois 6 12.50%
Justin Trudeau, Liberal Party 14 29.17%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-30-2015, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Thornhill, Ontario
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This poll (while not scientific) certainly represents the scientific polling we've seen throughout this campaign with no party standing out for the other in terms of support.
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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AH representative government.. You so smart Nat

though wouldn't Harper have had his minority governments all along (including 2011) because the Cons received the highest number of representative votes of the parties in question?
I haven't done the math, but in Proportional representation, they may not have. From the deepest corner of the internet.

"This voting system is a little more complex, and has few different models.

In one, a voter casts a ballot for a party, as opposed to voting for a prospective MP under a party banner as the current system prescribes.

Once all the votes are counted, parties are awarded a number of seats in proportion to the percentage of votes each received.

A second model, called “mixed member proportional” model is a hybrid system that combines the above with some single-member ridings. Several years ago, Elections Ontario proposed the province adopt this system, but it didn’t pass a referendum.

As described by the electoral body, the system would allow voters to cast one ballot for a candidate in their riding and a second ballot for their preferred party. The first vote determines, more or less, who sits in the legislature based on the second ballot which determines how many seats the party will fill.

In the end, if a party ends up with fewer seats than it should have based on its overall popularity, they would get some “top up” members from an already established party list.

Confused? Yeah, that’s one of the criticisms of this system.

But the praise – that it’s a fair system – often outweighs the criticism. If a party gets 30 per cent of the popular vote, it will get 30 per cent of the seats in the legislature.

To look at the last federal election again, Stephen Harper’s Conservatives won 39.6 per cent of the popular vote, but earned 166 of the 305 seats (54.4 per cent), and therefore a majority government.

The official Opposition NDP, by contrast, won 30.6 per cent of the popular vote and only 103 seats (33.8 per cent)."
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I haven't done the math, but in Proportional representation, they may not have. From the deepest corner of the internet.

"This voting system is a little more complex, and has few different models.

In one, a voter casts a ballot for a party, as opposed to voting for a prospective MP under a party banner as the current system prescribes.

Once all the votes are counted, parties are awarded a number of seats in proportion to the percentage of votes each received.

A second model, called “mixed member proportional” model is a hybrid system that combines the above with some single-member ridings. Several years ago, Elections Ontario proposed the province adopt this system, but it didn’t pass a referendum.

As described by the electoral body, the system would allow voters to cast one ballot for a candidate in their riding and a second ballot for their preferred party. The first vote determines, more or less, who sits in the legislature based on the second ballot which determines how many seats the party will fill.

In the end, if a party ends up with fewer seats than it should have based on its overall popularity, they would get some “top up” members from an already established party list.

Confused? Yeah, that’s one of the criticisms of this system.

But the praise – that it’s a fair system – often outweighs the criticism. If a party gets 30 per cent of the popular vote, it will get 30 per cent of the seats in the legislature.

To look at the last federal election again, Stephen Harper’s Conservatives won 39.6 per cent of the popular vote, but earned 166 of the 305 seats (54.4 per cent), and therefore a majority government.

The official Opposition NDP, by contrast, won 30.6 per cent of the popular vote and only 103 seats (33.8 per cent)."
I suck at math. Let me know the news...good or bad LOL
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:45 PM
 
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I think despite what the polls say the NDP will be winning a majority government. Most people don't like Harper or Trudeau but can tolerate Mulcair. Plus you wouldn't believe the levels of crowds around the NDP kiosk at my University.

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Old 09-30-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I think despite what the polls say the NDP will be winning a majority government. Mos people don't like Harper or Trudeau but can tolerate Mulcair. Plus you wouldn't believe the levels of crowds around the NDP kiosk at my University.
It really is a tough call. I saw crowds around Trudeau the times he's been in Vancouver. Not sure how to measure that against how a whole country feels.

I agree thought, that polls are becoming useless. They seem to be faltering more and more in their predictions, most likely because the way people connect today is so different than 10 years ago.
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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I think despite what the polls say the NDP will be winning a majority government. Mos people don't like Harper or Trudeau but can tolerate Mulcair. Plus you wouldn't believe the levels of crowds around the NDP kiosk at my University.
I think that would be awesome.
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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I think despite what the polls say the NDP will be winning a majority government. Mos people don't like Harper or Trudeau but can tolerate Mulcair. Plus you wouldn't believe the levels of crowds around the NDP kiosk at my University.
That is very unlikely to happen.

The crowds? As if that's an accurate indication of support.
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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That is very unlikely to happen.

The crowds? As if that's an accurate indication of support.
I tend to agree. If anything the Conservatives will likely end up with a higher percentage than the polls are showing right now as there tends to be a bit of "sleeper" Conservative support out there. Basically, it's not seen as "cool" to vote for them so many people don't advertise that that is who they support. Whereas it's more "cool" to be Liberal or NDP.

None of this reflects my personal preferences BTW.
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Thornhill, Ontario
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The NDP have been seeing their numbers fall in the polls in recent days. The Liberals and CPC are neck-and-neck right now.
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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I tend to agree. If anything the Conservatives will likely end up with a higher percentage than the polls are showing right now as there tends to be a bit of "sleeper" Conservative support out there. Basically, it's not seen as "cool" to vote for them so many people don't advertise that that is who they support. Whereas it's more "cool" to be Liberal or NDP.

None of this reflects my personal preferences BTW.
Huh? Considering that the it's usually the immature, IE youth, that worry about a " cool " factor, and the youth don't vote in strong numbers, I find your statement rather amusing.

If I was going to apply ones coolness concerns in regards to voting, I'd say those people would choose the Green Party.
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