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Old 10-28-2015, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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That would be awkward.

I wonder if they'd robocall you right before your flight and direct you to the wrong gate.
Okay, you and I have had our differences, but you got me laughing with this one. Nicely done!
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I don't think Stephen Harper's legacy will be all that positive. I'll hold that grudge for a long-ass time.

Kind of like my mother when she found out I was backing Justin Trudeau, she joked that she hopes my kid will vote for Ben Harper someday.
I happen to agree, I phrased it the way I did to try and argue a politically neutral point.
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Thornhill, Ontario
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Aside from not being dead, it shouldn't be named for Harper yet because he's still a sitting MP. If it's meant to honour a life of public service and a legacy that's more or less already been written, then it makes sense to name it when a person is dead, or at least old and long retired. We still don't know how the story of Steven Harper's life or his career will end! He's still working, he's still an influential sitting member of parliament! As such, regardless of politics, it's not the right thing to do, you're agreeing to honour a legacy when you don't even know fully know what it will be yet. It reminds me of Obama getting the Nobel Peace prize on an assumption of what his presidency would be like, totally inappropriate and ridiculous, and so too would this be!
Pretty much this.

Furthermore, the legacy of politicians are often re-evaluated throughout history as the long-term consequences of certain actions take place.
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Halifax, NS
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Okay, you and I have had our differences, but you got me laughing with this one. Nicely done!
Sorry if I was rude to you. I was angry at the time. Vice didn't call this last election a "Dumpster Fire" for no reason. Lots of fights in my social circles.

It was unfair of me to direct my pent up anger at a whole province as well. Harper is a poor representative of Alberta (not to mention not from there). It's like saying all Muslims are terrorists based on the actions of bin Laden.

Hell even Preston Manning said Harper was completely off his rocker, didn't he?
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Not really because if you read the next line I mentioned that there was a "from now on" aspect to it. Quebec stopped allowing stuff to be named for living people at some point. It doesn't mean there aren't some of those still around as there was no retroactive change process.
I still want to see a UN declaration about not naming airports, or anything after a living person, beside the geographical one that has been mentioned twice here.
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Not really. I definitely recall throughout my life people in positions of authority on the news, in the papers, etc. saying that stuff couldn't be named for living people. When I was a kid and since I was an adult. It wasn't a simple assumption on my part based on names of old dead people being all over the place.

I was a pretty observant kid. And BTW I didn't grow up in Quebec, remember?
However, as you have found out, there really isn't such a UN rule.
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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That's not the case at all. It's named for the curling team led by Brad Gushue that won the gold medal in curling at the 2006 Olympics.
My point is that it isn't named after a person, but a team. You didn't say the highway was named The Brad Gushue highway.
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Here you go for the link: Commission de la toponymie du Québec

And from the same site: why are the names of living people excluded?. It explains that Quebec does
follow the United Nations guidelines on the matter.

Edit:
Belgium follows the same guidelines, and France too

Like Acajack, I had honestly assumed that it was the same pretty much everywhere.
That is reference to geographical names, which we covered already in an earlier post. Acajack was suggesting it was for naming anything.
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Not really. I definitely recall throughout my life people in positions of authority on the news, in the papers, etc. saying that stuff couldn't be named for living people. When I was a kid and since I was an adult. It wasn't a simple assumption on my part based on names of old dead people being all over the place.

I was a pretty observant kid. And BTW I didn't grow up in Quebec, remember?
Observing a practice is one thing, actually providing a regulation or a law that shows why the practice was used is what I'm asking for, since you said in your first post

"Yes. I believe it's actually an international UNESCO standard that you only name stuff after people once they are dead. But it's not always followed in Canada. I believe in Canada only Quebec really follows the UNESCO standard rigidly."
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Old 10-29-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I still want to see a UN declaration about not naming airports, or anything after a living person, beside the geographical one that has been mentioned twice here.
I don't think Ban Ki-Moon has ever taken a position on it personally but as others have confirmed it's a pretty standard practice in many places around the world...

Unless you think a senior Quebec government official and the agency he works for (see begratto's link) are simply talking out their hats? But why would they do that? What would be the goal?

Oh yeah, last night I told the S(tephen) H(arper) I(nternational) T(erminal) thing to my family, and my wife (who is from Ontario BTW) and my kids all said without prompting "well, they can't name something for him yet cause he's not dead, right?"
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