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Old 11-03-2016, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Well, pub culture and drinking culture in general are somewhat different in Canada-US vs. UK-Australia-NZ.


This doesn't meant you don't see bad behaviour in all places. Of course you do. But stuff like "glassing" like you saw a few years ago in both the UK and Australia, is basically unheard of in North America. I'd venture that most people would be unfamiliar with the term here.


As I said, Canadian and Americans often do bad things when drinking. But they are "different" bad things.
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Well, pub culture and drinking culture in general are somewhat different in Canada-US vs. UK-Australia-NZ.


This doesn't meant you don't see bad behaviour in all places. Of course you do. But stuff like "glassing" like you saw a few years ago in both the UK and Australia, is basically unheard of in North America. I'd venture that most people would be unfamiliar with the term here.


As I said, Canadian and Americans often do bad things when drinking. But they are "different" bad things.
I had to google what glassing is.
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Old 11-03-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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Well, pub culture and drinking culture in general are somewhat different in Canada-US vs. UK-Australia-NZ.


This doesn't meant you don't see bad behaviour in all places. Of course you do. But stuff like "glassing" like you saw a few years ago in both the UK and Australia, is basically unheard of in North America. I'd venture that most people would be unfamiliar with the term here.


As I said, Canadian and Americans often do bad things when drinking. But they are "different" bad things.
You make it sound as if 'glassing' is somehow reasonably common place or socially accepted in Aus. Its neither; and if a serious assault like that ever does occur, the perp will face criminal charges, likely jail time, and enough media publicity to make sure their reputation is totally trashed for the long term.

Unheard of in Canada or the US? Here are just two from a very, very long list of Google hits.

Attack with broken bottle sends one to hospital | CTV Toronto News

Woman assaults man with beer bottle, police allege - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...e_with_br.html

And while no glass was involved:

http://globalnews.ca/news/3002523/to...a-wind-mccomb/

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Old 11-07-2016, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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You make it sound as if 'glassing' is somehow reasonably common place or socially accepted in Aus. Its neither; and if a serious assault like that ever does occur, the perp will face criminal charges, likely jail time, and enough media publicity to make sure their reputation is totally trashed for the long term.

Unheard of in Canada or the US? Here are just two from a very, very long list of Google hits.

Attack with broken bottle sends one to hospital | CTV Toronto News

Woman assaults man with beer bottle, police allege - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News

Man stabbed in the eye with broken bottle in bloody West New York fight, cops say | NJ.com

And while no glass was involved:

‘Reluctant’ witnesses to deadly Toronto bar stabbing asked to come forward - Toronto | Globalnews.ca
I don't get the impression Acajack was suggesting it was acceptable, just that it was more common. Just the fact that the act has a term " Glassing " that doesn't exist in Canada hints at that.

Certainly drunk people fighting have been hitting each other or threatening each other with bottles pretty much anywhere, but it was never epidemic in Canada, like this article appears to suggest.


"A GLASSING attack happens somewhere in NSW every nine hours."

Glassing attacks on the rise - National - smh.com.au
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:27 PM
 
Location: BC Canada
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I disagree with lamenting the British influence over Canada. Canada is a thoroughly independent country from Britain in all ways. The only reason we don't have a republic is because the Americans have one and Canada always goes out of it's way to separate Canada from the US.

Canada was the first country to become independent from British rule after the American revolution. Canada was the country that led to the devolution of the Empire to the Commonwealth. Canada refused to follow Britain's lead and declare war on Germany in WW11 till a day after to send the clear message to London that this was our decision and not theirs. Churchill hated Canada for that. We were the first to get a completely independent flag and all of this is to say nothing of the fact that Canada was founded as a French nation.

Canada's sensibilities don't lie with Britain or France for that matter but more with it's Nordic neighbours. We consider both VERY good friends but not family members and Canadians see themselves as more global citizens. Canada has never had the nationalism of Britain or France primarily because the US is very nationalistic and again Canada goes out of it's way to shun all things American.

If you were to ask 10 Canadians who their "best friend" is you would probably get 10 different answers. Canada is sort of odd in that we have many very good friends but no intimacy with anyone.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:24 PM
 
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I don't get the impression Acajack was suggesting it was acceptable, just that it was more common. Just the fact that the act has a term " Glassing " that doesn't exist in Canada hints at that.

Certainly drunk people fighting have been hitting each other or threatening each other with bottles pretty much anywhere, but it was never epidemic in Canada, like this article appears to suggest.


"A GLASSING attack happens somewhere in NSW every nine hours."

Glassing attacks on the rise - National - smh.com.au

yeah, that was pretty much a short lived phase.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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yeah, that was pretty much a short lived phase.
About to say the same thing, its been many years since we have heard of glassings being a problem. Some clubs in the valley still serve in plastic glasses, its not many though.
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Old 11-07-2016, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Canada was the first country to become independent from British rule after the American revolution. .
It's very hard to make this statement conclusively.

Generally speaking, most scholars consider that Canada became independent with the Statute of Westminster at the same time as Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc. on Dec. 11, 1931.

Others say that true independence from the UK only came with the patriation of the Constitution in 1982. If that's true then South Africa (1961) was fully independent from the UK way before Canada.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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yeah, that was pretty much a short lived phase.
Good to hear.

Some people get violent when they get drunk, others like me, get all warm and fuzzy
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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Hi Mooguy, I agree with your views about Britain, Canada does not feature at all in the UK ( though im sure lovely people, great scenery). We have a powerful cultural link with the US ( though the Americans seem prudish on alcohol) but much more akin to Anglo-Celtic Australians and Kiwis ( though the latter can be arrogant). Canada is so far off the radar here we cannot comment
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