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Most Anglo-descended Canadians aren't even descended from the British actually. The biggest chunk of British Isles immigrants, I believe, were the Scots and Irish.
The US, Canada and Australia are all obviously Europe-derived societies, but I have not found that there is much of a difference in the level of ''Europeanity'' they have generally. Obviously, there are different levels within the countries too: Boston feels more European than Houston. Montreal more than Calgary. Melbourne more than Brisbane.
True enough of Cities in respective countries. But I also think that middle class Americans and Canadians have that European quality more than their Aussie counterparts.
Most Anglo-descended Canadians aren't even descended from the British actually. The biggest chunk of British Isles immigrants, I believe, were the Scots and Irish.
Irish were ''British" until the 1920s and the independent Republic of Ireland is still considered part of the ''British Isles".
True enough of Cities in respective countries. But I also think that middle class Americans and Canadians have that European quality more than their Aussie counterparts.
OK. Well, it's not something that's ever really jumped out at me (a marked national difference between them in this respect).
Yes, but the connotation is still different. Regardless of what greater nationality they arrived under, the identities of the Scottish or Irish, even then, are still way more distinct than simply painting them as just British. I just took a course about Canada's early immigration and a lot of the content made a careful point to distinguish between different major demographics coming from the Isles, so I know I'm not just pulling this out of my head.
Yes, but the connotation is still different. Regardless of what greater nationality they arrived under, the identities of the Scottish or Irish, even then, are still way more distinct than simply painting them as just British. I just took a course about Canada's early immigration and a lot of the content made a careful point to distinguish between different major demographics coming from the Isles, so I know I'm not just pulling this out of my head.
I hereby demand that Quebecois no longer be referred to as Canadians. We have a distinct identity. What about the Cornish and Jerseyans? Can we call them British?
Yes, but the connotation is still different. Regardless of what greater nationality they arrived under, the identities of the Scottish or Irish, even then, are still way more distinct than simply painting them as just British. I just took a course about Canada's early immigration and a lot of the content made a careful point to distinguish between different major demographics coming from the Isles, so I know I'm not just pulling this out of my head.
I am not disputing their old world identities, but that course should have also taught you that once in the new world countries, those groups all merged reasonably rapidly with one another to form a fairly homogenous anglo mass. Many people of long establishment in Canada, USA or Australia who are fiercely proud to be of Irish or Scottish or English origin generally have at least one or both of the others in their lineage as well. They often just picked the one that makes the most sense to them, for whatever reason.
I am not disputing their old world identities, but that course should have also taught you that once in the new world countries, those groups all merged reasonably rapidly with one another to form a fairly homogenous anglo mass. Many people of long establishment in Canada, USA or Australia who are fiercely proud to be of Irish or Scottish or English origin generally have at least one or both of the others in their lineage as well. They often just picked the one that makes the most sense to them, for whatever reason.
Okay, but I wasn't talking about what happened to them once they arrived in Canada. Just that labelling English-speaking persons in Canada who are white as mostly British is misleading.
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Originally Posted by PBeauchamp
I hereby demand that Quebecois no longer be referred to as Canadians. We have a distinct identity. What about the Cornish and Jerseyans? Can we call them British?
If there was a phenomenon of mass migration of Canadians to a new country/place, then yeah, I would say making a distinction between where Quebecois or French-speaking persons went versus English-speaking persons (if there was a significant difference) would be an important thing to look at. I don't think that one country = one culture necessarily. It's okay to recognize the differences within.
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