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Old 05-21-2016, 04:25 PM
 
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The World's Best Countries in Science [Interactive] - Scientific American

Here's something to think about (although it doesn't seem to take population size into account).

EDIT: According to this, the US spends more on research per capita than Canada does.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...pment_spending

Even on median (not average figures which could be skewed towards the very rich as the old joke says "In Saudi Arabia everyone is millionaire on average) income statistics (PPP, Purchase Power Parity) for both household and individual, the US is ahead of Canada contrary to what some believe in this forum.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Prince William County of the Crown Commonwealth of Virginia
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Isn't it nice that Canada is kind to its neighbor to the South.
Canada has to be kind. 77% of Canadian exports go to the U.S. Without the U.S. Canada's economy is just Chinese real estate and extracting toxic tar sands. Maybe Trudeau should spend less time on selfies and more time diversifying the economy?
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Prince William County of the Crown Commonwealth of Virginia
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Only military power does not make a country a superpower....


America is a superpower because of its superiority militarily, economically, financially, academic research, R&D spending, technology, medical field, the arts, etc...

Is America perfect?? Far from it...are there things that need to be changed urgently?? Do we have serious issues?? Absolutely yes. Is Canada the model to follow?? Fore the most part IMHO no.
Canada's wealth is a real estate bubble and extracting fossilized dinosaur parts from Alberta. Without those two sectors, the economy would be in a crippling recession. Canada hasn't produced a major technological innovation since the Blackberry. That company is now teetering on bankruptcy. Bombardier is also asking for a bailout cause Canada's flight industry is almost dead. The Canadian auto industry is dead. They've gone so far as to call Ford and GM 'domestic auto companies.' It's very sad.

Yet we still hear arrogance from many Canadians because they produced Justin Bieber, Poutine and Drake. As if those three somehow make Canada automatically a superpower.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:27 PM
 
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Canada has to be kind. 77% of Canadian exports go to the U.S. Without the U.S. Canada's economy is just Chinese real estate and extracting toxic tar sands. Maybe Trudeau should spend less time on selfies and more time diversifying the economy?
The US relies on Canada for 33% of its oil, but perhaps buying from ISIS in the Middle East is preferable.

Imagine a life without the evil oil!
No more tires, fake leather, skis, plastics, upholstery, linoleum ... the list goes on.

Perhaps instead of trying to kill the petroleum industry, Canada should look to develop a manufacturing base to compete with US petroleum based products that rely on Canada's petroleum industry.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Prince William County of the Crown Commonwealth of Virginia
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I know that people in the US believe that they surpass all other countries in the world in terms of research, innovation, invention, medicine, technology, arts and so on. That's just the nature of living in the US where children learn to believe that living in the US means superiority.

People in the rest of the world view things differently. DNA analysis, for example. That's a significant development, but not something where the US can take credit. Computers were not invented in the US. The US works with inventions from other countries, but that's quite different from being able to take credit for those inventions.

The generosity of other superpowers who share their knowledge with the US allows the US to thrive.
The Personal Computer was made by the U.S. IBM in 1973 created the first truly personal computer. Then came Apple in 1976. This is fairly common knowledge. The first modern computer was Torpedo Data Computer developed by the U.S. Department of the Navy.

So the U.S. created the first modern computer (the first computer was the Antikythera mechanism in Greece 2,200 years ago). And the U.S. created, pioneered and marketed the first personal computers as well.

The British created the World Wide Web. The Americans created the Internet.

And the Human Genome Project was overwhelmingly funded by the U.S. National Institutes of Health and the U.S. Department of Energy. It was an American-led, funded and governed project. The British contributed a little bit of funding. And then a bunch of other countries pitched in a small fraction of the cost.

It's amazing the small extent to which some Canadians are willing to give credit to the U.S. for anything.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:55 PM
 
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The US relies on Canada for 33% of its oil, but perhaps buying from ISIS in the Middle East is preferable.

Imagine a life without the evil oil!
No more tires, fake leather, skis, plastics, upholstery, linoleum ... the list goes on.

Perhaps instead of trying to kill the petroleum industry, Canada should look to develop a manufacturing base to compete with US petroleum based products that rely on Canada's petroleum industry.
Does he have any plans??

I mean real estate is also problematic in Canada but it seems he has no idea!!
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Prince William County of the Crown Commonwealth of Virginia
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The US relies on Canada for 33% of its oil, but perhaps buying from ISIS in the Middle East is preferable.

Imagine a life without the evil oil!
No more tires, fake leather, skis, plastics, upholstery, linoleum ... the list goes on.

Perhaps instead of trying to kill the petroleum industry, Canada should look to develop a manufacturing base to compete with US petroleum based products that rely on Canada's petroleum industry.
U.S. oil imports are shrinking drastically: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...s=MTTNTUS2&f=A

We import less oil today than at any point in the past 50 years. And Canada needs the U.S. to sell its oil far more than the U.S. needs Canada's environmentally destructive oil sands. If the U.S. were so beholden with Canadian oil, why did Obama reject Keystone XL? Canada has much less leverage than it thinks.

1) U.S. is producing more domestically. As of June 2015, the U.S. surpassed Russia as the world's largest producer of oil and natural gas: U.S. Ousts Russia as Top World Oil, Gas Producer in BP Data - Bloomberg

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The U.S. has taken Russia’s crown as the biggest oil and natural-gas producer in a demonstration of the seismic shifts in the world energy landscape emanating from America’s shale fields.

U.S. oil production rose to a record last year, gaining 1.6 million barrels a day, according to BP Plc’s Statistical Review of World Energy released on Wednesday. Gas output also climbed, putting America ahead of Russia as a producer of the hydrocarbons combined.

The data showing the U.S.’s emergence as the top driller confirms a trend that’s helped the world’s largest economy reduce imports, caused a slump in global energy prices and shifted the country’s foreign policy priorities.

“We are truly witnessing a changing of the guard of global energy suppliers,” BP Chief Economist Spencer Dale said in a presentation. “The implications of the shale revolution for the U.S. are profound.”
2) U.S. solar and wind power is taking off: Fitch: Smooth Sailing Ahead for US Wind Power | Business Wire

3) U.S. is getting more energy efficient. Our cars must average 54.5 miles per gallon in 9 years: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...iency-standard

That will reduce oil imports by 2,000,000 barrels of oil per day. The U.S. imports 3,558,000 barrels of oil from Canada each day. So energy efficiency alone would erase 56% of what Canada provides. And imports are now only 21% of consumption, a record low: Forecast: In 2015, Imported Oil Will Make Up Just 21% of US Consumption

So Canada's golden goose is increasingly meaningless for the U.S. market.

And we're entering a post-oil Era. Not a good time for any petrodollar economy.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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It's amazing the small extent to which some Canadians are willing to give credit to the U.S. for anything.
Credit is a two way street.. Something you're really not very good at.. Good thing for the U.S, you're not responsible for its diplomacy. Keep on typing keystroke warrior..
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:03 PM
 
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Speaking of Bombardier - the company just sold a bunch of planes to Delta.. The C series had on rough start but its on track..

Although manufacturing in Canada has taken a big hit (as is the case in the U.S), its still the 10th largest automotive manufacturer in the world producing 2.1 million automobiles annually.

There are other ways Canada can and will diversify post oil.. Its something it really does need to work on and I think we are in an a phase of adaptation but long term I think the future is bright for the nation.

Here is a list of the top 10 exports out of Canada - no surprise it isn't just oil.. Things have been a bit rocky as of late, but a resource rich, first world progressive nation such as Canada will have no trouble embracing the future and being a part of the global economy.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/canadas-top-exports/
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Prince William County of the Crown Commonwealth of Virginia
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Without the invention of the computer in England, Silicone Valley would still be all about fruit. Working with someone else's invention does not make someone a superpower.
Why is Silicon Valley not in England then? Or Canada?

If the U.S. is such a technologically backwards nation, why are all the biggest tech firms in the U.S.
Amazon
Apple
Cisco
Danaher
eBay
EMC
Facebook
General Electric
Gilead Sciences
Google
Hewlett-Packard
IBM
Intel
Kodak
Micron Technology
Microsoft
Oracle
Pixar/Disney
Qualcomm
Salesforce
Texas Instruments
Thermo Fisher Scientific
Twitter
Xerox
Youtube

What are the Canadian tech innovators?
*Crickets*
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