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Old 10-16-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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In these trying times there are still some bright spots:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...ered-1.6213520

Thank goodness for the type of healthcare system that allows for this instead of having an insurance company's priority being one of shareholder dividends.

 
Old 10-16-2021, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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In these trying times there are still some bright spots:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...ered-1.6213520

Thank goodness for the type of healthcare system that allows for this instead of having an insurance company's priority being one of shareholder dividends.
Odd that the article mentions other provinces that will be covering the drug, but fails to mention BC. Especially since CBC did a story on BC and the new drug 9 days before this article.

Anyway it is the right thing to do.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...afta-1.6201266
 
Old 10-16-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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Odd that the article mentions other provinces that will be covering the drug, but fails to mention BC. Especially since CBC did a story on BC and the new drug 9 days before this article.

Anyway it is the right thing to do.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...afta-1.6201266
Just one more example of the state of present day journalism as it applies to doing any kind of background research.
 
Old 10-16-2021, 09:15 PM
 
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Default Well, the French submarines........

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Macron wants face-to-face meeting with Trudeau to talk security, China, climate:

https://www.thestar.com/politics/202...a-climate.html

Maybe he wants to sell Trudeau some submarines.
French submarines would HAVE to be better than the used junk we constantly buy from Britain. Those subs don't sink, and the ships we buy don't float.
 
Old 10-17-2021, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA/London, UK
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In these trying times there are still some bright spots:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...ered-1.6213520

Thank goodness for the type of healthcare system that allows for this instead of having an insurance company's priority being one of shareholder dividends.
Considering Trikafta has been FDA approved since 2019, listed as a Tier 2 drug under HI plans, and recommended for 90% of CF patients by the FDA, not exactly the best example to use when speaking about private healthcare.

Anyways, very happy to see this story as this drug has literally been a lifesaver for many.
 
Old 10-17-2021, 01:12 PM
 
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Considering Trikafta has been FDA approved since 2019, listed as a Tier 2 drug under HI plans, and recommended for 90% of CF patients by the FDA, not exactly the best example to use when speaking about private healthcare.

Anyways, very happy to see this story as this drug has literally been a lifesaver for many.
Approval processes for drugs have nothing to do with private versus universal healthcare systems.

Different countries, different approval processes.

I agree that it isn't a good example for private healthcare since as you pointed out, not everyone is covered for the drug, as they will be in Canada.
 
Old 10-17-2021, 02:18 PM
 
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Approval processes for drugs have nothing to do with private versus universal healthcare systems.

Different countries, different approval processes.

I agree that it isn't a good example for private healthcare since as you pointed out, not everyone is covered for the drug, as they will be in Canada.
I clearly was using the approval timeline to show how long the drug has been added to the formulary on major HI plans. I didn't think it was necessary to clarify.

Is there universal coverage for Trikafta in the US? No. But currently, neither is there in Canada. Fighting with the Provinces for coverage is not any different than fighting for coverage with your private insurer.

Of course, ideally down the line, you will have an alternative to the Vertex product, so that they no longer have a monopoly on the market. They did the work of course and should not be penalized, but more options will mean better pricing down the line.
 
Old 10-17-2021, 05:52 PM
 
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I clearly was using the approval timeline to show how long the drug has been added to the formulary on major HI plans. I didn't think it was necessary to clarify.

Is there universal coverage for Trikafta in the US? No. But currently, neither is there in Canada. Fighting with the Provinces for coverage is not any different than fighting for coverage with your private insurer.

Of course, ideally down the line, you will have an alternative to the Vertex product, so that they no longer have a monopoly on the market. They did the work of course and should not be penalized, but more options will mean better pricing down the line.
Well, actually it's quite a bit different as the Insurance company CEO's are not responsible to anyone other than shareholders; whereas Provincial legislators are responsible to their constituents and can be voted out over something just this emotionally charged. Especially so if one or more of the provinces approves it's coverage.

AND there's no discounting the ability for Canadians to move from one province that doesn't include it to another that does and be covered within a month or so with no major insurance costs to themselves.

And there's always the ability for Canadians to move from a province that doesn't include it to one that does with no major insurance outlay being required.

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Old 10-18-2021, 12:59 AM
 
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Those ^^ are really good points to consider.

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Old 10-18-2021, 06:25 AM
 
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Those ^^ are really good points to consider.

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Even if I did duplicate the last one by editing and "senior second" forgetting to delete the duplicate statement, eh?
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