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Old 04-26-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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Are Quebeckers closely watching the French election? Do the have strong opinions about it?
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Old 04-26-2017, 12:51 PM
 
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Judging by the hundreds of Facebook French-language comments left on Radio-Canada's French election stories, I'd say there's a good portion of Quebecois who are Le Pen supporters. Many of the most top voted comments are borderline racist, calling for similar anti-immigrant, borderline racist measures to be implemented here in Canada and Quebec. Definitely shatters the usual assumption that Quebec is a shining haven of liberal progressives after reading them.
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:05 PM
 
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Judging by the hundreds of Facebook French-language comments left on Radio-Canada's French election stories, I'd say there's a good portion of Quebecois who are Le Pen supporters. Many of the most top voted comments are borderline racist, calling for similar anti-immigrant, borderline racist measures to be implemented here in Canada and Quebec. Definitely shatters the usual assumption that Quebec is a shining haven of liberal progressives after reading them.
Quebec is more into social solidarity and big government and doesn't have as puritanical laws, which in the US would be associated with globalist politics and a cosmopolitan approach to the other. Quebec, on the other hand, has always had a strong streak of ethnic nationalism, and France even more so (Quebec society is more accepting of, and better at integrating, immigrants). The Parti-Quebecois has always been both xenophobic, and into strong social spending and government intervention in the economy. This is very similar to what Le Pen advocates. The Francophone political world isn't set up along the same left-right axis as the Anglo-American one.
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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.Definitely shatters the usual assumption that Quebec is a shining haven of liberal progressives after reading them.
Quebec has always been liberal economically but they are mostly socially conservative especially when it comes to immigration. I never had the impression of Quebec being liberal, especially spots outside of Montreal.
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Old 04-26-2017, 01:16 PM
 
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Quebec is more into social solidarity and big government and doesn't have as puritanical laws, which in the US would be associated with globalist politics and a cosmopolitan approach to the other. Quebec, on the other hand, has always had a strong streak of ethnic nationalism, and France even more so (Quebec society is more accepting of, and better at integrating, immigrants). The Parti-Quebecois has always been both xenophobic, and into strong social spending and government intervention in the economy. This is very similar to what Le Pen advocates. The Francophone political world isn't set up along the same left-right axis as the Anglo-American one.
Yeah exactly. Parti-Quebecois is left wing ecomomically and right wing everything else like immigration. This is similar to France and many Quebeckers have this view. The political system in Quebec is different compared to the system in the rest of Canada.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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Quebec has always been liberal economically but they are mostly socially conservative especially when it comes to immigration. I never had the impression of Quebec being liberal, especially spots outside of Montreal.
Quebec is NOT socially conservative at all if we are going by the actual definition of the term: gay rights, anti-war, secularism, abortion rights, alcohol, drugs, sex, women's rights and feminism... On all of these fronts it's one of the most liberal progressive regions in North America. This includes both Montreal all the way to far-flung areas.


But it's not as rah-rah-rah on the topic of diversity and society being a clean slate where all customs, traditions and practices are equally legitimate, which is what makes it seem more "conservative" to some.


The "world in one country, without a defined identity" principles are almost an exclusively Canadian thing anyway. Few countries in the world are there at this point and even those that were were tempted by it are rethinking things right now.


Most Quebecers are actually pro-immigration BTW, but they just have higher expectations in terms of integration than most other Canadians seem to.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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So basically they're liberal bigots.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Judging by the hundreds of Facebook French-language comments left on Radio-Canada's French election stories, I'd say there's a good portion of Quebecois who are Le Pen supporters. Many of the most top voted comments are borderline racist, calling for similar anti-immigrant, borderline racist measures to be implemented here in Canada and Quebec. Definitely shatters the usual assumption that Quebec is a shining haven of liberal progressives after reading them.
Whenever I am shocked about comments on online news pages, I am always met with a deluge of replies on here that I shouldn't pay attention to them, that they're only cranks.


I don't understand why, this time, they'd be considered to be conclusive?
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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So basically they're liberal bigots.
That's the classic Anglo-Canadian "meme", anyway.
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Quebec is more into social solidarity and big government and doesn't have as puritanical laws, which in the US would be associated with globalist politics and a cosmopolitan approach to the other. Quebec, on the other hand, has always had a strong streak of ethnic nationalism, and France even more so (Quebec society is more accepting of, and better at integrating, immigrants). The Parti-Quebecois has always been both xenophobic, and into strong social spending and government intervention in the economy. This is very similar to what Le Pen advocates. The Francophone political world isn't set up along the same left-right axis as the Anglo-American one.
Although Le Pen no doubt has some sympaathizers in Quebec, she can generally be said to be quite unpopular here. As was her father here. She is very negatively portrated in our media, and last year when she came here she said he "more things in common with the PQ than Trudeau", and wanted to meet with them, but no one important in the party would touch her. She had to settle for a meeting with a couple of kids from the youth wing I think.


So bottom line is the Front national likes the PQ and Quebec a lot more than the PQ and Quebec like them.

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