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Old 05-22-2017, 08:15 PM
 
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obviously there's no emotional pain if the decision is sound.
So you don't believe females make emotionally painful decisions in life? I don't agree with you.

Sound decisions come from the the logical centres of the brain. Emotion comes from a different part of the brain entirely. Sometimes emotion struggles with logic. Either can win out but there still may be lingering regret. Maybe the regret surfaces years later.

I don't know. I wouldn't presume to say I know how everyone feels about their abortions. I'm not a mind reader and I've never had an abortion.
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Old 05-22-2017, 08:26 PM
 
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So you don't believe females make emotionally painful decisions in life? I don't agree with you.

Sound decisions come from the the logical centres of the brain. Emotion comes from a different part of the brain entirely. Sometimes emotion struggles with logic. Either can win out but there still may be lingering regret. Maybe the regret surfaces years later.

I don't know. I wouldn't presume to say I know how everyone feels about their abortions. I'm not a mind reader and I've never had an abortion.
Slow down! Stop putting words in my mouth - they just don't fit!

Let's forget for a moment that this discussion is about abortion, and let's focus on decision making. If people make a decision, but second guess and have doubts, they will experience some emotions in relation to the decision. If people make a sound decision and do not second guess, it's a done deal and nothing more than part of history. The same is true of abortion.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:01 PM
 
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Slow down! Stop putting words in my mouth - they just don't fit!

Let's forget for a moment that this discussion is about abortion, and let's focus on decision making. If people make a decision, but second guess and have doubts, they will experience some emotions in relation to the decision. If people make a sound decision and do not second guess, it's a done deal and nothing more than part of history. The same is true of abortion.
I disagree. I've made logical and sound decisions in life where I haven't regretted the decisions but have been sad afterwards that such decisions had to be made.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:43 PM
 
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Slow down! Stop putting words in my mouth - they just don't fit!

Let's forget for a moment that this discussion is about abortion, and let's focus on decision making. If people make a decision, but second guess and have doubts, they will experience some emotions in relation to the decision. If people make a sound decision and do not second guess, it's a done deal and nothing more than part of history. The same is true of abortion.
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I disagree. I've made logical and sound decisions in life where I haven't regretted the decisions but have been sad afterwards that such decisions had to be made.
I agree with Irene. I've never had an abortion but people are a little more complicated than that, Lieneke.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:54 PM
 
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If people make a sound decision and do not second guess, it's a done deal and nothing more than part of history. The same is true of abortion.
If only life were that easy. Unfortunately we are called human beings and emotions do play a real role in our existence. I have made sound decisions in life but still have done so with a heavy heart and there is always an imprint regardless of how logical and rational the decision was.
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Old 05-22-2017, 10:13 PM
 
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I agree with Irene. I've never had an abortion but people are a little more complicated than that, Lieneke.
People don't have to be more complicated than that Netwit. There will always be drama queens, but there are also plenty of practical, intelligent women who deal with an unwanted pregnancy in a matter of fact manner that does not melt into a puddle of emotion. I suggest that women should be given a little more credit. Abortion does not hurt, and it does not necessarily reduce women to emotional messes. Some women cannot cope with their decisions, but many women can.
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:45 PM
 
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People don't have to be more complicated than that Netwit. There will always be drama queens, but there are also plenty of practical, intelligent women who deal with an unwanted pregnancy in a matter of fact manner that does not melt into a puddle of emotion. I suggest that women should be given a little more credit. Abortion does not hurt, and it does not necessarily reduce women to emotional messes. Some women cannot cope with their decisions, but many women can.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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People don't have to be more complicated than that Netwit. There will always be drama queens, but there are also plenty of practical, intelligent women who deal with an unwanted pregnancy in a matter of fact manner that does not melt into a puddle of emotion. I suggest that women should be given a little more credit. Abortion does not hurt, and it does not necessarily reduce women to emotional messes. Some women cannot cope with their decisions, but many women can.
It's not like the only emotional ways to be are being a drama queen and being a robot. Women who make rational good decisions can and do reflect back on those decisions with emotions, just as any human being does, leaving out the abortion part of it and focusing on the decision-making part.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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It's not like the only emotional ways to be are being a drama queen and being a robot. Women who make rational good decisions can and do reflect back on those decisions with emotions, just as any human being does, leaving out the abortion part of it and focusing on the decision-making part.
I agree that it is normal to reflect on day to day events, but I would not say that abortion has any special significance. My impression was that some people hold abortion in a special category with a perception that it is filled with physical and emotional pain, and I am saying that simply is not true - especially for women who have made a sound decision early in pregnancy. I suspect that any woman who has a third trimester abortion would feel guilt given that 22 and 24 week gestation fetuses (premies) can survive outside the womb - but that's a whole other thing involving women who are unable to make a clear decision until well into the pregnancy. Personally I view third trimester abortions as monstrous.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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I agree that it is normal to reflect on day to day events, but I would not say that abortion has any special significance. My impression was that some people hold abortion in a special category with a perception that it is filled with physical and emotional pain, and I am saying that simply is not true - especially for women who have made a sound decision early in pregnancy. I suspect that any woman who has a third trimester abortion would feel guilt given that 22 and 24 week gestation fetuses (premies) can survive outside the womb - but that's a whole other thing involving women who are unable to make a clear decision until well into the pregnancy. Personally I view third trimester abortions as monstrous.
You suspect incorrectly.


Late-term abortions are not happening in Canada without a
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