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Old 07-24-2017, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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what's life like for visible minorities outside of the major cities (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Ottawa, Winnipeg) in Canada? is there racism, discrimination in terms of getting jobs, dating, etc?

I'm talking about smaller cities like London, Kelowna, Halifax, Kitchener-Cambridge-Waterloo, Kingston (ON), Saskatoon, etc.

I'm a minority and i have lived in a non-diverse mid-sized city in the US and when I visited Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver, I was really shocked by the diversity and the sheer number of foreign-born population. At least in the inner core of these cities, it felt like not one ethnic group dominated the other in numbers and it felt very pluralistic.

back in the US, if you're not in the large cities in the West Coast, the Northeast, Chicago, people are not as PC. I wouldn't say racist per se, but just less aware and less sensitive in terms of what they say, because they are not used to living with other races. is it pretty much the same thing in Canada as well, if you go to smaller cities?
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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people are not as PC. I wouldn't say racist per se, but just less aware and less sensitive in terms of what they say, because they are not used to living with other races. is it pretty much the same thing in Canada as well, if you go to smaller cities?
The same in Nova Scotia.
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Old 07-24-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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You should be fine. There are racist people everywhere and you may stumble into them, but for the most part that isn't much of a problem with smaller sized cities.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:51 AM
 
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back in the US...
NO, please. Not this again. We are not interested in "back in the US". Don't do US vs. Canada.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:53 AM
 
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I visited Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver...., it felt like not one ethnic group dominated the other in numbers and it felt very pluralistic.
really? In Vancouver, you didn't feel like one ethnic group dominating others?
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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well the US is the only country that I have lived in that is similar enough to be compared to Canada. It's my point of reference. Nothing more, nothing less. Unfortunately, I haven't been to places like Australia or the Netherlands.

and Vancouver is not diverse, as in it's either white or East Asian. i get that.
But it still holds true that white people don't outnumber the Asian people. nor vice versa. so, that's what i meant by one ethnic group not dominating another.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Canada
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It really depends on what your threshhold is for "few". I think most people would consider less than 5% of a population being visible minorities for there to be few, and there are lots of places like that.

I haven't personally spent long living in places like that, but my friends who are visible minorities and moved to such places report that they didn't encounter much overt racism and integrated easily into the communities, but some have reported that they are often reminded, in little ways, almost every day, that they look different from everyone else. A comment here, a comment there, being "the asian one" rather than the the short one, or the one with the glasses, or the foodie etc. It can be a bit alienating, but it isn't really that severe of an issue for any of them, they've all elected to remain in these communities they chose for themselves. Discrimination that would affect getting a job, or being allowed to join a club or anything like that is non-existent. There's probably some dating discrimination at a personal level, but that probably exists everywhere, and the ones who were single seem not to have had too much trouble getting romantic partners since they all ended up dating people at some point.

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Old 07-25-2017, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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well the US is the only country that I have lived in that is similar enough to be compared to Canada. It's my point of reference. Nothing more, nothing less. Unfortunately, I haven't been to places like Australia or the Netherlands.

and Vancouver is not diverse, as in it's either white or East Asian. i get that.
But it still holds true that white people don't outnumber the Asian people. nor vice versa. so, that's what i meant by one ethnic group not dominating another.
We've had this discussion before on CD. Diversity doesn't just go by skin colour. Whites populations can be very diverse. A white immigrant from Russia is quite different than a white immigrant from the US for example.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:31 PM
 
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We've had this discussion before on CD. Diversity doesn't just go by skin colour. Whites populations can be very diverse. A white immigrant from Russia is quite different than a white immigrant from the US for example.
For Americans everything is about race, race, race. From police to politics to toilet to music, everything is about race. It is sickening.

More funny: when they talk about race, it is always about blacks and hispanics, as if other people didn't exist in the US.
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Old 07-30-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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I honestly don't find people any more or less bigoted outside large cities than in them. I'm not trying to be a Pollyanna either... people in large cities are more used to being around diverse immigrant communities, this is true, and maybe are more aware of international customs, and that kind of thing. But, I think there are quite a lot of people down east, at least, who are willing to make the effort to try to be friendly to newcomers.

There have been immigrants from many places around the world for decades now, even in the Maritimes, which seems to come as a surprise to some people from The Big City. The Maritimes have had immigrants from around the world for some time now, just in smaller numbers. They do exist, though. Children of immigrants from major cities come to the Maritimes to study, or to settle down. So it isn't as though the life or culture in the Maritimes hasn't changed at all since 1867, stereotypes aside.

I think the most difficult part of adapting to life outside major cities is twofold: a) living apart from large immigrant communities, like Toronto, and b) the lack of economic diversity in many rural areas. For a newcomer, there are advantages to living in a major city where you can network with hundreds, or thousands, of people with the same background. And if you live in a rural area, your career choices are somewhat restricted in contrast with what goes on in major cities.
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