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I had no idea my original question would receive so many replies. I haven’t followed this thread in a while because it soon became clear to me that the debate would become intemperate and go off the rails.
I had no idea my original question would receive so many replies. I haven’t followed this thread in a while because it soon became clear to me that the debate would become intemperate and go off the rails.
Now that you've read all the threads do you have any opinion as to why there are so few mass shootings in Canada?
Just for the record, on the few pages of this thread that I read not a single reference to home defense. Some disparaging remarks about "rednecks in PU trucks" and "Bubba" which fall short of US gun owner attitudes. Also most NRA attitudes are about personal defense with firearms being the equalizer. To the poster above as far as an armed populace goes please explain the Afghani tribal success with small arms (albeit with CIA assist with ground to air shoulder fired missiles) against the USSR in the 1980's. Agreed organized military tactics generally are the most effective but many US firearm owners are not a roll over on our backs and pee on our belly types. I like Benjamin Franklin's statement that "those who would give up their freedoms for security deserve neither freedom nor security".
The US has and always has had a "stronger" personality than Canada, our polite neighbor to the north. The US started with a rebellious effort to get out from under a tyrannical government (miraculously successful) which the Canadian /English to the north rejected. At least Canada slowly got self determination becoming totally independent of England after WWII with the breakup of the British Empire . This character difference has served the US and the world well especially considering the US effort in being the main cog winning WWII .
Canadians postulating about US gun owner attitudes is a laughing matter. Canadians are simply not equipped mentally to understand US attitudes much less those of US gun owners.
The best reflection on the 2 countries is who they choose to lead them. Justin Trudeau ... oozing estrogen, demure attitude, apologetic political correctness ... a puss if there was ever one.
Then Trump ... no BS, no quarter even from the Leftist (like Canada's) press. Building the US back up (post puss Obama) gutting government regulation which chokes the economy (thus the standard of living). US independant attitudes are flourishing and "making America great again. Don't worry Canada ... you'll continue to ride the US shirttail and will gain (once again) from US strength and prosperity.
The main failures in the Fla shooting stems from law enforcement dropping the ball dozens of times. I have to admit the Canadian national police would have done a much better job and IMO would have prevented this tragedy. Some Canadian things are superior than the US and the RMCP is superior on a law enforcement scale to anything in the US.
I want to point out too that EVERY one of these mass murderers in the US, except the Islamic extremists, have been on psychotropic drugs and went off their dosing. There is a correlation here IMO. Nidal Malik Hasan, US Army vet was subject to both forces though .... psychotropic drugs and an Islamic extremist.
I also want to point out also that the US Supreme Court has upheld on at least 3 cases that law enforcement has no legal obligation to ensure an individual's personal safety. So that is a personal matter in the US. Good tools are a must!
So it basically boils down to attitude. Huge difference between the 2 countries.
This is just one redneck's thoughts. (I own 2 PU trucks) FTR, I know some western Canadians with fierce independent attitudes.
Now that you've read all the threads do you have any opinion as to why there are so few mass shootings in Canada?
It's the common denominator ... ACCESS to firearms.. AT this point is well beyond Legal or Illegal access... But when "Gun Lobby restricts ability to do proper background checks.. NRA lobbying to maintain ALL Loopholes to enable selling of firearms. ALL responsible gun owners are unfortunately painted by the BRUSH Gun Manufacturer funded NRA with the sagebrush!!
The sooner the better, NRA gets sidelined and their lobbyists the better IMO! No ones immune to being in the wrong place at the wrong time.. BUT NO ONE SHOULD EVER BE FEARFUL that some Suicidal gunner could pop out to massacre innocents.. Schools/Church/Concerts etc etc!!
Point is.. lobbying continuations of LOOPHOLE ( including cross border trade/3 day waiting period if NOT cleared Automatically get cleared/ Straw-man purchases @ gun shows enabled sell out of their trunks/ Nofly lists listed enabled to be cleared yet can't board an aircraft???? Far too many loopholes that GOP refuses to consider.. Infringements?? GMAFB
Canada.. is far different and any American soon learns all about it IF THEY try to carry across OUR Boarder!!
Because Canadians are smart enough not to have gun fetishes and dreams of being like Rambo is my guess.
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(I own 2 PU trucks) FTR, I know some western Canadians with fierce independent attitudes.
