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Old 06-13-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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Are there any Franco-Ontarians remaining who only speak French?
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:41 AM
 
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Sure there are.


Overall in the province only a small fraction of the francophones speak only French.


But if you go to the most francophone parts of the province like Cochrane District (Hearst-Timmins-Kapuskasing) or Prescott-Russell (Hawkesbury-Embrun-Casselman-Rockland) you get over 10% of the francophone population that speaks only French. In Prescott-Russell it's actually 15% I think.
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:44 AM
 
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Well apparently there are. From Wikipedia:

'According to the 2016 Canadian census, there were 490,715 people living in Ontario who declared French as their mother tongue, and 277,045 Ontarians who declared French as their language that they speak most often at home.[1] Over 1.4 million Ontarians reported themselves as bilingual, and 1.3 million Ontarians reported French ethnic origins. French-speaking Ontarians constitute the largest French-speaking community in Canada outside Quebec, as well as the largest minority language group within Ontario, and French is the fourth most common ethnic background in the province after English, Scottish and Irish.'

Apparently, French influence even spread all the way into the US where Detroit was founded: détroit is French for strait referring to the river between the US and Canada connecting two lakes. French roots to be proud of .
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:45 AM
 
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Overall in Ontario at the last census there were 40,000 people out of 13 million who speak only French. Most of these are probably concentrated in eastern and northeastern Ontario and are "old-stock" Franco-Ontarians of French Canadian origin.


Another chunk are probably immigrants from francophone places like France, Haiti, the Congo, etc. who live in cities like Ottawa and Toronto and don't know any English (yet - in most cases).
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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Sure there are.


Overall in the province only a small fraction of the francophones speak only French.


But if you go to the most francophone parts of the province like Cochrane District (Hearst-Timmins-Kapuskasing) or Prescott-Russell (Hawkesbury-Embrun-Casselman-Rockland) you get over 10% of the francophone population that speaks only French. In Prescott-Russell it's actually 15% I think.
Would it be senior citizens who are most likely to be monolingual?
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Would it be senior citizens who are most likely to be monolingual?
Yes, plus younger children, like preschoolers or preteens. Quite a few Franco-Ontarian parents will speak to their kids strictly only in French when they are younger in order to give them a good base in French before they get swept up in English.


Depending on where they live this may only last until the start of kindergarten (in much of Ontario, French schools are full of kids who are really native English speakers) but in some areas the family "safe space" for French can last until they become teenagers and venture a bit more out on their own in society.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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Only 0,3% of all Ontarians speak French only. And they won't even be real Franco-Ontarians, probably migrants from Africa, France or Québec.


In Nouveau Brunswick it's 57% English only, and only 8% French only and all bilingualism in NB is one-sided and comes solely from the French side...


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Apparently, French influence even spread all the way into the US where Detroit was founded: détroit is French for strait referring to the river between the US and Canada connecting two lakes. French roots to be proud of .

yes Detroit, the sparkling American metropolis can be proud of its French roots


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Would it be senior citizens who are most likely to be monolingual?

Yes.

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Depending on where they live this may only last until the start of kindergarten (in much of Ontario, French schools are full of kids who are really native English speakers)

Very good and very sad point. Not only in Ontario, I would say everywhere outside Québec and NB.


Honestly, I hate that. English native kids should be banned from attending French schools in English-majority provinces, and instead attend English schools that are supposed to be for the English and general community, because these English kids speak with other kids in French schools...in English. And therefore they are anglicizing kids in French schools that are supposed to be for the francophone community.


I found a very interesting article about a French school in another English Canadian province:


Lorsqu’il est arrivé en Nouvelle-Écosse, Vincent Chandler, Montréalais d’origine, a eu la mauvaise surprise de voir que le français n’était pas toujours garanti à l’école francophone où il avait scolarisé sa fille.Je me suis rendu compte rapidement que tout se passait en anglais, quand j'entrais dans l'autobus scolaire c'était de l'anglais.
Sa fille lui aurait même rapporté que d’autres enfants refusaient de jouer avec elle, car ne parlait pas anglais.
Source: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...ent-par-le-bas



"The father has sent his daughter to a French school and once she and he entered the school bus, he only heard English-speaking voices and only kids talking in English, and from that moment on, he knew that the French school will be an English place.

His daughter tried to play with other kids from the French school in French but the other kids refused to play with her because she didn't speak English."


So, basically his daughter was DISCRIMINATED in a FRENCH SCHOOL because she DIDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH. The Canadian government has deliberately eased access to French schools for anglophones to wipe out the remaining francophone minority in the rest of Canada by SOCIALIZING them in English in FRENCH SCHOOLS because they know, they if they send a majority of native anglophone kids to a French school and allow it, that the native francophones will be a minority that is under control of the English kids.

If francophones in Québec knew how Ottawa is mistreating and abusing francophones outside of Québec, they would immediately declare independence. Whereas English schools in Québec are attended by a majority of English kids and socialization takes place in English and they make friends in English, Francophone kids do not have them same rights and conditions outside Québec and NB.



Francophone kids should also have right of socialisation in FRENCH in French schools in the rest of Canada, including the right to talk in French in school breaks without being rejected and that there are not unfavorable conditions to make friends in French at French schools! Right now they DON'T! If French is not the normal and everyday language within French schools, such schools do not fullfill the purpose anymore of securing the francophone minority outside of Québec.


If I was a francophone parent outside Québec, I don't even know if I would send my kid to a French school, what's the purpose if such a school is attended by a majority of English kids and my kid must talk in English to make friends...? Then I might as well send it to an Englisch school.
I hope the francophone parents are going to sue the governments in the other Canadian provinces over this injustice and insolence, and I hope that many more Chinese migrants are going to arrive in Greater Vancouver and that their kids will only speak Chinese among themselves in Vancouver's English schools, so that the Anglophone community there will know how it feels like to be treated like francophones are mistreated in the rest of Canada.

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Old 06-13-2018, 02:18 PM
 
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Note that the francophone Montrealer's name is Vincent... Chandler.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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Note that the francophone Montrealer's name is Vincent... Chandler.

Is that an English name or a French? To me it sounds neutral but I don't know.
There are numerous French, English, German names in Canada that not necessarily mean that the person is anglo- or francophone, and surely not German-speaking.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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Chandler is an English origin name. It is the old word for a candle-maker I think.
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