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Old 01-07-2019, 03:54 PM
 
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Do French Canadian teens to thirtysomethings care much about language politics?
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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For the 90% of them who live in Quebec it's pretty much an issue that is settled. They don't feel the need to man the barricades, but they would find it odd or abnormal if something in Quebec is not in French or if someone who's lived in Quebec for a while hasn't learned to speak French.


My kids are too young to be millenials, but in terms of their attitudes, they don't say stuff like "French must be protected at all costs!", but on the other hand when they hear people complain about a lack of English services in Quebec, their gut response is almost always "why don't they just move to Ontario if they're not happy?", as opposed to "maybe Quebec should do more for its anglo minority".


Likewise, during the recent brouhaha over French rights in Ontario, I heard more than a few times younger people in Gatineau say "I admire their determination and I do support their cause, but... wouldn't it just be easier for them to move to Quebec?"
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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A Millenial is a person born between the years 1981-1995. Today’s teens are not millennials
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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A Millenial is a person born between the years 1981-1995. Today’s teens are not millennials
Yes.
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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A Millenial is a person born between the years 1981-1995. Today’s teens are not millennials

So what are they? I never used to pay much attention to the naming of generations, but these days it seems one must. Just out of curiosity, what is the most accepted term for today's teens? Is it post-millenials, the iGeneration, neo-digital generation, Delta Generation or Generation Z .... or what ? And what comes next after that? According to this wiki article it will be Generation Alpha that comes next. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z

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Old 01-08-2019, 12:54 PM
 
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I just wonder if some of them think there is a burden on them to learn fluent English while Anglos outside of Quebec are not expected to learn fluent French. You see a considerable number of Francophone students going to English-language CEGEPs and universities but how many Anglos attend the University of Montreal or other French-language institutions of higher learning?

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Old 01-08-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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Do French Canadian teens to thirtysomethings care much about language politics?
To be quite honest The French language was ONLY an issue with the"Separatists back in the DAY"... One only needs to look historically at what happened in Montreal and Quebec in general to see just where the antagonists came from.

As of today, those who continue demand "Separating from the Canadian Union" are still the militant minority. Majority, of ALL French speaking Quebec Provincial Citizens speak English or multiple languages.

Back in the '60's multiple kidnappings, murders, hostage taking , bombings occurred... today it's just plain mostly "PROPAGANDA MESSAGING" via Social media that fuel's any perceived turmoil with the borders. Protests, sure.. but the extent of the violence of the '60's NOPE!!

I actually lived it.. and experienced it personally back then. So having extended family still living there, NOW.... Confirms my above expressed opinion.

Thanks for asking M O S
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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Majority, of ALL French speaking Quebec Provincial Citizens speak English or multiple languages.

This would be inaccurate.
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:08 PM
 
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I just wonder if some of them think there is a burden on them to learn fluent English while Anglos outside of Quebec are not expected to learn fluent French.


They don't view things in those terms, though. Older generations of Québécois francophones did have a bitterness about shouldering the entire bilingualism burden themselves, not just regarding anglophones in other Canadian provinces, but even when it came to anglophones and immigrants living in Quebec - most of whom did not speak French a few generations ago.


The attitude of young people in Quebec today regarding the unilingualism of most people in Canada outside Quebec is "it's their loss". There is even a tendency in some circles to look down on them as being narrow-minded and limited. (Not entirely dissimilar to how some Europeans look down on Americans.)
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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You see a considerable number of Francophone students going to English-language CEGEPs and universities but how many Anglos attend the University of Montreal or other French-language institutions of higher learning?
Francophone and anglophone students in Quebec tend to learn the other language at different periods of their educational life.


At this point the vast majority of Quebec anglophone kids in elementary and secondary are in some form of French immersion. So they spend a good chunk of their day in French even if they're technically in an "English" school. And another chunk of anglophone Quebecer kids actually go to French elementary and/or high school with francophones by choice (or at least by their parents' choice). So this is where most of them learn their French.


The phenomena described above don't really exist to any comparable degree for francophones. Which is why those francophones who have a strong desire to become more bilingual go to post-secondary in English in greater numbers than anglos who do the reverse.
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