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Imagine Quebec declaring independence and no one recognizes it as a sovereign nation, not even France. It's one thing to be independent and another to be legitimate in the eyes of the rest of the world.
PBeauchamp you really have built up a hate for Canada and its predominantly Anglo population,Where do you suppose this hate for your country and its population came from? There is a solution to your hate for your country of residence.
As for The full francization of Ottawa.? whats the point?
PB is simply pointing out that the ROC's best interests are served in declaring independence from Quebec.
Imagine Quebec declaring independence and no one recognizes it as a sovereign nation, not even France. It's one thing to be independent and another to be legitimate in the eyes of the rest of the world.
I think Trump would have the US recognize it as a new Nation. I think France would too..... Just opinion
PBeauchamp you really have built up a hate for Canada and its predominantly Anglo population,Where do you suppose this hate for your country and its population came from?
Jambo101, wanting to make Canada a truly bilingual country doesn't equal hating Canada.
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There is a solution to your hate for your country of residence.
That's true, I could join the separatist faction.
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As for The full francization of Ottawa.? whats the point?
The benefits of Ottawa's francization would be twofold:
Scenario 1: Ottawa would be seen as an example to the rest of Canada and improve belief in Canada among potential Quebec separatists.
Scenario 2: In the likely event of Canada's future breakup, Ottawa would be a most valuable bargaining piece. If francization is as successful as it has been in Montreal, then Ottawa could potentially join the new Quebec as the nation's third city.
So whichever way the wind blows, the francization of Ottawa would prove beneficial to us.
I think Trump would have the US recognize it as a new Nation. I think France would too..... Just opinion
I think Trump would too, but Trump will be long gone into obscurity by the time it happens, if it ever happens, which I doubt it will. I don't think France would recognize it.
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Jambo101, wanting to make Canada a truly bilingual country doesn't equal hating Canada.
That's true, I could join the separatist faction.
The benefits of Ottawa's francization would be twofold:
Scenario 1: Ottawa would be seen as an example to the rest of Canada and improve belief in Canada among potential Quebec separatists.
Scenario 2: In the likely event of Canada's future breakup, Ottawa would be a most valuable bargaining piece. If francization is as successful as it has been in Montreal, then Ottawa could potentially join the new Quebec as the nation's third city.
So whichever way the wind blows, the francization of Ottawa would prove beneficial to us.
No one wants to make Canada a truly bilingual country except francophones , and people who dont need French in their lives see no point in learning another language just to placate Quebecs apparent need for linguistic expansion. Your only option IMO is to be Canadian or separate and form your own little French country as you will have no chance of turning the ROC French.
No one wants to make Canada a truly bilingual country except francophones , and people who dont need French in their lives see no point in learning another language just to placate Quebecs apparent need for linguistic expansion. Your only option IMO is to be Canadian or separate and form your own little French country as you will have no chance of turning the ROC French.
They know this and that is the essence of why they're still waffling. They also know that to actually put their money where their mouths are, severing the ties would end up making them even more irrelevant than they've been told for decades to feel.
I think Trump would too, but Trump will be long gone into obscurity by the time it happens, if it ever happens, which I doubt it will. I don't think France would recognize it.
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My observation is that people from Quebec “do not speak proper French”.
But I suspect the geo-political bias will overrun the ability to speak proper French!!
I don’t speak “proper” Russian, nor do I speak “proper” Ukranian. It has been held against me.
I do speak English pretty well, but then again, my writing is suspect since English is my fourth language.
In the end.....the nations personal interests in the outcome will determine IF Quebec becomes an independent state.
I support it.....We need to get government to support the people at the level they govern. Canada will be better off with a independent Quebec....and so will the world.
Imagine Quebec declaring independence and no one recognizes it as a sovereign nation, not even France. It's one thing to be independent and another to be legitimate in the eyes of the rest of the world.
If you're thinking about what happened with Catalonia a year ago, Quebec would never attempt independence that way.
So things would likely go differently and obviously out of the 200 countries in the world some would recognize an independent Quebec. Most of them? Probably not. At least not right away.
But France would almost certainly as would a number of others. The US might as well BTW. Perhaps not as "early adopters" but eventually they would in the interest of stability on their northern border.
The idea that the entire world would be pi55ed off at Quebec for separating from Canada is a fantasy. Yes, most people around the world would think it's a bad decision by Quebec and shake their heads. But that's an entirely separate issue from diplomacy and geopolitics.
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Just opinion
