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Old 01-12-2020, 11:41 AM
 
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For quality of life and human development? We are not even in the top ten any more.
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Old 01-12-2020, 01:40 PM
 
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This says we are 12th for HDI

http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...di-by-country/

The previous year we were 13th

2019 Human Development Index Ranking | Human Development Reports

In 2015 were tied with New Zealand in 9th place.

The difference between the top countries rankings is so small, that I don't believe it means much.

As for QOL. It appears many organizations have their own rankings. I just googled in a totally unscientific way, to get a random ranking for 2018, and for 2019.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/can...list-1.4265201

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/us-n...-in-2019-.html

Curious as to where you are getting your rankings?
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Old 01-12-2020, 01:42 PM
 
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For quality of life and human development? We are not even in the top ten any more.
Depends on where you're getting your stats: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...-life-rankings
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Old 01-12-2020, 02:05 PM
 
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Why have we slipped so much in HDI? Aren't HDI rankings and quality of life rankings closely related?



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Does it have something to do with many middle class people not being able to afford homes in the big cities?

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Old 01-12-2020, 02:12 PM
 
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Depends on where you're getting your stats: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...-life-rankings
Well that's nice to read. Still the article shows Canadas gdp per capita is lower than most of the countries on that list. Why? What can we do to improve that?
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Old 01-12-2020, 02:20 PM
 
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Well that's nice to read. Still the article shows Canadas gdp per capita is lower than most of the countries on that list. Why? What can we do to improve that?
Choices must be made. Not always the easiest thing to do if you're walking a fine line between environment protection, world opinion and resource extraction - manufacturing, production.

We can't have it all ways and still listen to the U.N lecturing us on it's expectations while having China, Russia and a host of other countries sitting on their committees telling us WE'VE got to do better.

Just one example of outside influences upon the amount of revenue we've got to improve our stats:

https://www.wired.com/story/china-is...w-coal-plants/

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/29/71634...al-bet-on-coal
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Old 01-12-2020, 02:29 PM
 
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[quote=BruSan;57077302]Depends on where you're getting your stats: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...-life-rankings[/QUOTE

This shows how subjective the rankings are when you are splitting hairs between wealthy countries.
Give's Australia's lowest score to heritage. Must have completely ignored our pre-European, Aboriginal heritage. Also a very low rank for food. Which makes you wonder if anyone who did the rankings has ever been here. With half our population born overseas or having a parent born overseas we have a huge variety of high quality food.
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Old 01-12-2020, 02:33 PM
 
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Why have we slipped so much in HDI? Aren't HDI rankings and quality of life rankings closely related?

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Does it have something to do with many middle class people not being able to afford homes in the big cities?
That is the case in almost all the developed countries, except perhaps the US, where there are far more large cities.
Our guide in Tokyo was telling us just how little you get for your money there. London, Auckland, Sydney and Melbourne, Hong Kong and Singapore. same situation.

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Old 01-12-2020, 02:44 PM
 
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This shows how subjective the rankings are when you are splitting hairs between wealthy countries.
Give's Australia's lowest score to heritage. Must have completely ignored our pre-European, Aboriginal heritage. Also a very low rank for food. Which makes you wonder if anyone who did the rankings has ever been here. With half our population born overseas or having a parent born overseas we have a huge variety of high quality food.
The heritage rankings seem off to me. They gave Canada 0.0. NADA for rich history. Huh? Sounds like it'a a very limited scope. You guys got a 0.5. Again, sounds way off and possibly Euro ( read white ) centric.

They include the odd category under Heritage of " has great food ". Again, Canada ranks 1.0 and you guys 1.4.
How did they come to that conclusion?

At least in the preamble of the link, they mention access to food and I guess someone could make a case that by that they mean affordably, but so far I can't find any more info on where they actually ranked " access to food".
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Old 01-12-2020, 04:17 PM
 
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Depends on where you're getting your stats: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...-life-rankings
It’s a pretty bizarre list tbh. India at 34?

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This shows how subjective the rankings are when you are splitting hairs between wealthy countries.
Give's Australia's lowest score to heritage. Must have completely ignored our pre-European, Aboriginal heritage. Also a very low rank for food. Which makes you wonder if anyone who did the rankings has ever been here. With half our population born overseas or having a parent born overseas we have a huge variety of high quality food.
Why does that surprise you? Australia has relatively little to offer when in comes to pre-European heritage. The same more or less applies to the US and Canada. I’m not saying that those cultures have no value whatsoever, but when you look at historical monuments found all over the world, it becomes rather obvious that Aboriginals and many Native American tribes from North America have left behind a comparatively poor legacy. That’s also the reason why many of those groups have practically been erased from history, as sad as that is.
You can find a lot of interesting structures in Mexico, like the city of Teotihuacan or the Mayan ruins of Yucatan...
Culture and heritage need to leave a lasting impression, like what the Roman Empire achieved. When in Rome, you can see the footprints left behind by the Romans. When in Sydney or Melbourne you see cities built by European settlers.
To most Aussies and tourists, Aboriginals are a curiosity. It’s an unfortunate reality.

I agree with you on the food though.
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