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I guess we'd all be better off if Mommy and Daddy kept us sheltered our entire life.
Right now I am more concerned about keeping Mom Dad safe. And others peoples Moms amd Dads aswell. I know being considerate of others is a foreign concept to some.
I guess we'd all be better off if some mommies and daddies had taught their unruly offspring better manners and a sense of social responsibility and respect.
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Right now I am more concerned about keeping Mom Dad safe. And others peoples Moms amd Dads aswell. I know being considerate of others is a foreign concept to some.
You are both missing my point. There is no Santa Claus in the sky who is going to keep us safe, warm and fed if everyone is hiding under their sheets.
You are both missing my point. There is no Santa Claus in the sky who is going to keep us safe, warm and fed if everyone is hiding under their sheets.
Canadians are not hiding under the sheets, and neither are they dragging AK47s around demanding personal rights.
How are things down South? All clear of vandalizing, arsonist anarchists? The Canadian govt listens to Canadians. It might feel like Socialism when the country speaks as a whole, but that is not the case. Under threat, every country should unite. Perhaps a shorter election period would make life easier for people in the USA - you know, delegate some tasks to the elected party rather than everyone having their say again and again for years.
Trump requested a postponement of the election. Does that mean he wants to buy a little more time on the pandemic timeline to be able to declare that he fixed it?
Does he want to delay to Spring 2021 rather than November 2020?
You are both missing my point. There is no Santa Claus in the sky who is going to keep us safe, warm and fed if everyone is hiding under their sheets.
often the role of government is to step in and guide as a parent would, due mainly in part to humanity constantly proving that left to our own devices we invariably act like spoiled children and never seek the greater good, rather short tern personal gain
I think, in the main, our pol's. realized the danger inherent and ultimately acted accordingly to advice given by professionals.
Now, however, I'm seeing spasms of angst akin to the deniers below and they seem to be waffling and rushing the opening a bit due to some public pressure.
Group gatherings of 250 or more in Quebec?? The worst hit province??
I can see the Maritimes watching that and wondering how long they're going to be able to stave off the almost certain resultant surge in cases.
Toronto gatherings that exceed guidelines are becoming more common now with the younger crowd throwing caution to the winds. I predict Dougie's going to throw another "they're yahoos" hissy fit soon.
It might seem somewhat unusual to hear that for our part, we're kind of enjoying a peaceful summer out gardening and enjoying quiet times under the maple trees. Thank god the mosquitos have finally relented to allow for that.
I'm getting caught up on household projects I've been putting off for years. Installing a whole house standby generator system and emptying a shed full of clutter is this weeks ambition.
A bit of info - throughout the early months of the pandemic construction trades were not very busy but I had to wait a full 6 weeks out to get an appointment with the Electrical and Gas people as they are now busier than a one armed paper hanger. It seems many people are deciding the time is right to have renovations etc., done.
I think, in the main, our pol's. realized the danger inherent and ultimately acted accordingly to advice given by professionals.
Now, however, I'm seeing spasms of angst akin to the deniers below and they seem to be waffling and rushing the opening a bit due to some public pressure.
I recall some commentary I was reading a while ago, that basically compared dealing with the virus to getting involved in a war.
When a country gets involved in a war, everybody is enthusiastic to do whatever it takes to win. Hey, we'll ration fuel and food in order to make sure that the troops have what they need. We'll do without, in order to win. Hell, we will donate pots and pans to build planes and tanks. Go us; win that war! Our victorious troops will be home by Christmas!
Problem is, that the longer the war drags on (long past Christmas), and no progress seems to be made, in spite of the privations the people are suffering, the less enthusiastic the people become. "Whaddaya mean, I can't fill my tank? Whaddaya mean, I can't buy a steak?" In other words, people get tired of it, especially when they see that little to no progress is being made. They're going to say, "The hell with this," and go back to what they did before. As much as they can, anyway.
So it is with this virus. Some people are tired of it, and are pushing back against the restrictions they are suffering. It's not a smart approach, and it's perhaps the dumbest approach. But it is a very human approach. All this "No gatherings! Social distancing! Six feet apart! No handshakes, no high-fives! Granny's dying? Tough! You are not allowed to be with her at the end!" goes against our basic human nature. Instinct, if you will. And while some are willing to continue going along, some are getting tired of it, and are pushing back.
Now that we've gone through the initial enthusiastic "Hey, we'll win this war, even if we have to suffer for a few weeks!" stage, and "a few weeks" has become "a few months with no end in sight," enthusiasm for the fight is waning among a segment of the population.
It becomes a balancing act. How does a politician balance those who want everybody to be on lockdown with those who don't shive-a-git? Especially when those who don't are going to say "The hell with this," and do what they want anyway? Maybe businesses could take the lead here--you either wear a mask, allowing you to buy groceries; or you don't wear a mask, disallowing you from buying groceries, for example. Regardless, I'd suggest that no amount of laws, sanctions, fines, and so on will do the job; especially since police have better things to do, and the courts are backed up after being closed for so long. At any rate, it seems to me that to keep things civil, politicians have to balance the two interests, give a little to each, but not give each side everything it wants.
If I stood beside someone and noticed they looked sick e.g. had a flushed face and heavy coughing, I would immediately back off. I always do so automatically when I notice someone has a heavy cold. It’s instinct.
Part of the problem with those who test positive with the coronavirus but are well enough to be out in public socializing is that there is usually no visual cue to warn others of “danger”. Even seeing masks isn’t a danger cue as most people who wear masks are healthy. So for those who don’t care about others, the message, “it’s in your best interest to wear a mask and socially distance” is a harder sell.
Canadians are not hiding under the sheets, and neither are they dragging AK47s around demanding personal rights.
Thanks for the rep. When I go online with a certain synagogue group in Toronto it sure sounds like many are hiding under their sheets.
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How are things down South? All clear of vandalizing, arsonist anarchists?
Personally I enjoy rioting. I smashed up a sporting goods store to loot three cans of tennis balls, all in the name of justice for Paul Bernardo and Karen Homulka.
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The Canadian govt listens to Canadians. It might feel like Socialism when the country speaks as a whole, but that is not the case. Under threat, every country should unite. Perhaps a shorter election period would make life easier for people in the USA - you know, delegate some tasks to the elected party rather than everyone having their say again and again for years.
Does the average Canadian really want wild subsidies for CanCon and official bilingualism?
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Trump requested a postponement of the election. Does that mean he wants to buy a little more time on the pandemic timeline to be able to declare that he fixed it?
Does he want to delay to Spring 2021 rather than November 2020?
He is not getting that. His point is that widespread use of mailing ballots will be unmanageable at best and at worst lead to massive fraud.
If I stood beside someone and noticed they looked sick e.g. had a flushed face and heavy coughing, I would immediately back off. I always do so automatically when I notice someone has a heavy cold. It’s instinct.
Part of the problem with those who test positive with the coronavirus but are well enough to be out in public socializing is that there is usually no visual cue to warn others of “danger”. Even seeing masks isn’t a danger cue as most people who wear masks are healthy. So for those who don’t care about others, the message, “it’s in your best interest to wear a mask and socially distance” is a harder sell.
Remember the normal work environment that has been in place for a few decades : suggested policy is that sick people do not show up for work. A day off means using benefits or having no benefits. Most people with the sniffles show up for work anyway and then everyone gets the sniffles. The problem with the coronavirus is that it is contagious before symptoms are serious, and not everyone has serious symptoms.
Sneezing for one person could mean death for someone else, even healthy people in their 40s.
The hope is that sick people stay home, but most dismiss early symptoms as allergies.
Can work environments be modified to reject everyone with any appearance of illness?
Thanks for the rep. When I go online with a certain synagogue group in Toronto it sure sounds like many are hiding under their sheets.
Personally I enjoy rioting. I smashed up a sporting goods store to loot three cans of tennis balls, all in the name of justice for Paul Bernardo and Karen Homulka.
Does the average Canadian really want wild subsidies for CanCon and official bilingualism?
He is not getting that. His point is that widespread use of mailing ballots will be unmanageable at best and at worst lead to massive fraud.
Mail in ballots are inherently prone to tampering. If people can't, or are afraid to, vote and the gov't. won't postpone the election, I suppose more ballots will be cast by the anti-pandemic crowd. Postponing the election includes the possibility that the pandemic resolves itself in Spring 2021 and Trump takes credit.
Some men expect women to hide under the sheets while men riot.
Men can do better.
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