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Anyone listening to the presidential debate? ......
I only saw about 20 minutes of it part way through the debate. I finally had to turn it off, I couldn't tolerate the incompetence. What I did see was such an absolute debacle, the very worst presidential debate I've ever seen in my life.
And where the hell was there a moderator to stop all the brash interruptions and bulldozing and going off topic? I wanted somebody to jump on the platform and stuff a bar of soap down Trump's throat so he'd shut up.
From the set of his jaw and eyes Trump looked exactly the same as he looked during the debate 4 years ago with Hillary when he was stalking her to and fro behind her on the platform trying to physically intimidate her and make her nervous and slip up. I was expecting him to start stalking Biden at any moment too or suddenly pounce on him and throttle him.
Biden behaved like a mouse, could barely get up the gumption to get a word in edgewise and seemed incapable of raising his voice to audible levels. And sometimes he was whispering and muttering to himself under his breath while Trump continued to rant.
I feel so sorry for all Americans that these two are the best candidates that USA can produce. But I still hope that Biden is elected because even if he is quiet spoken rather than brash, at least when he does speak that man has a human heart and he has a better sense of realism. I think if Trump gets elected again the entire USA will be a done for goner on the world stage within 4 years and make the rest of the world combined into USA's enemy.
I only saw about 20 minutes of it part way through the debate. I finally had to turn it off, I couldn't tolerate the incompetence. What I did see was such an absolute debacle, the very worst presidential debate I've ever seen in my life.
And where the hell was there a moderator to stop all the brash interruptions and bulldozing and going off topic? I wanted somebody to jump on the platform and stuff a bar of soap down Trump's throat so he'd shut up.
From the set of his jaw and eyes Trump looked exactly the same as he looked during the debate 4 years ago with Hillary when he was stalking her to and fro behind her on the platform trying to physically intimidate her and make her nervous and slip up. I was expecting him to start stalking Biden at any moment too or suddenly pounce on him and throttle him.
Biden behaved like a mouse, could barely get up the gumption to get a word in edgewise and seemed incapable of raising his voice to audible levels. And sometimes he was whispering and muttering to himself under his breath while Trump continued to rant.
I feel so sorry for all Americans that these two are the best candidates that USA can produce. But I still hope that Biden is elected because even if he is quiet spoken rather than brash, at least when he does speak that man has a human heart and he has a better sense of realism. I think if Trump gets elected again the entire USA will be a done for goner on the world stage within 4 years and make the rest of the world combined into USA's enemy.
Unbelievable!
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IMO it's the system. The real quality people just can't even contemplate running. It so darn expensive!
After the orange goes, the USA should really look at overhauling their system. Trump has exposed all the cracks. Checks and balances???
IMO it's the system. The real quality people just can't even contemplate running. It so darn expensive!
After the orange goes, the USA should really look at overhauling their system. Trump has exposed all the cracks. Checks and balances???
That is exactly it, Natnasci. A person of good character will never reach the point where he or she can run for the highest offices, because to get to that point you have to have sold your soul to someone in the first place.
Some years ago, I had this great guy from the next town over running for Congress. He actually showed up at local events and walked around introducing himself, not bombastically and with a bullhorn, but as a human being, talking to people, asking what they hoped to see. I think he was a schoolteacher, but I don't know if I'm remembering that correctly.
He ran and he lost. The next cycle, he ran again. He got more votes that time, but he still lost. I ran into him one day and asked if he was going to run again, and he said, "I can't afford to, and if I take financing from special interests, I'll have to change my platform to follow what they want, and that will go against everything I've been telling people that I want to do."
It was sad, but that's our reality here. Our representatives are paid for. And look what they get for their money.
I'm hoping the younger ones do something. My own daughter says Bernie Sanders is too conservative for her. Perhaps those with that mindset will make a radical change.
The cost being just one aspect of political ascendency. What about the colonoscopy performed upon every single one of your relatives, friends, acquaintances, in the turning over of every rock of your life experience to look for anything they can dredge to discredit you.
What about the tendency today to, if not finding dirt of substance, to just make something up?
Who, with the desired intellect and wisdom would subject themselves to that nefarious process in any western democracy today? You'd have to be a full blown masochist to put yourself, and anybody you care for, through that meat grinder.
The cost being just one aspect of political ascendency. What about the colonoscopy performed upon every single one of your relatives, friends, acquaintances, in the turning over of every rock of your life experience to look for anything they can dredge to discredit you.
What about the tendency today to, if not finding dirt of substance, to just make something up?
Who, with the desired intellect and wisdom would subject themselves to that nefarious process in any western democracy today? You'd have to be a full blown masochist to put yourself, and anybody you care for, through that meat grinder.
My take-away was: there's going to be a surge in chiro visits this AM in the U.S.. I swear I felt the earth stagger when everyone shook their heads at the same time down there.
Those Americans working and interacting with others are going to be expressing their frustration in droves around the water cooler.
Knowing that a significant number of Americans would have tuned in to watch, the President should have refrained from lying about the professed rampant fraud in voting. Aside from the point that stating he knows there's fraud but at the same time claiming his 2016 win was legitimate already putting him on his back foot. He should be aware every organization out there has studied the issue to it's shoe soles and found no proof of organized fraud. Lying to his stupid minions at a rally is light years less critical than lying with so many normal people watching him was just stupid.
The arrogance of his deliberately lackluster pandemic response should have been enough for any thinking person.
Joe Biden, however, resting on his laurels of the supercilious grin, shoulder shrugs and looking down at his shoes does nothing to convince anyone this guy has his act together and can make the tough choices going forward. His platform has nothing new in it but the same old, same old "tax the rich", "affordable healthcare for all", "stamp out racism". One thing to take the higher road but quite another to just perform the same sniping your protagonist does thinking that's showing you've got some backbone after all, while not having elocuted anything of substance.
Americans are left with choosing someone who will continue on his path of willful ignorance of convention, ignorance of proven intelligence, ignorance of science, ignoring advice from wiser people and propensity to orchestrate a "look over there" deflection every five minutes. OR choosing someone who "might" actually develop a set of targets, take some hitherto untried risk, surround himself with a cadre of intelligent, morally and ethically balanced advisors and make appeals of the people they can get on board with. "Might" being the operative word here.
At the end of the day they have to choose between one whose flaws are there for all to see and another one who's been a go along to get along political wallflower for the greater part of his career.
Having said all of the above; does anyone here think our political theater ISN'T following the same script?
Great summary. No one had anything good to say about either of the clowns.
Funny you should ask about our political theatre. As I read the National Post this morning, I thought Biden might want to plagiarize our guy - whatever his name is - O'toole. The new Conservative Party man that appeared out of thin air.
There was no actual debate. High school debating teams have higher standards.
The moderator was too slow to control the mess going on, which IMO was totally instigated by Trump. Trump was out of control. At least Biden tried to hold it together, but did lose it by telling him to shut up. Maybe not the best tactic, but it was satisfying for a moment
The object of political debates is a chance for candidates to clarify and showcase how their polices are better than their opponents. I didn't see any of that. Trump's plan I believe was to bluster loud enough that no actual policy could be seriously debated.
Biden did miss one chance though. Trump was going on how Biden wanted SOCIALIST healthcare. Trump then went on to brag that he and he alone had gone after big Pharma for lower drug prices, but then said his plan was to buy cheaper drugs from other countries. Biden should have responded that going around big Pharma's drugs prices in the US isn't taking big Pharma on, and that it's ironic that Trumps plan on buying drugs cheaper is only possible because these countries have universal healthcare. The very thing Trump is accusing Biden of wanting.
You can't make this stuff up!
It's like they each came to the podium planning to emotionally unsettle the other to show the world the stupidity of the other. As a result, they both came across as completely incapable of managing a conversation, let alone a country.
I don't think Trump had a single coherent sentence, and Biden tossed out the usual rhetoric.
I only saw about 20 minutes of it part way through the debate. I finally had to turn it off, I couldn't tolerate the incompetence. What I did see was such an absolute debacle, the very worst presidential debate I've ever seen in my life.
And where the hell was there a moderator to stop all the brash interruptions and bulldozing and going off topic? I wanted somebody to jump on the platform and stuff a bar of soap down Trump's throat so he'd shut up.
From the set of his jaw and eyes Trump looked exactly the same as he looked during the debate 4 years ago with Hillary when he was stalking her to and fro behind her on the platform trying to physically intimidate her and make her nervous and slip up. I was expecting him to start stalking Biden at any moment too or suddenly pounce on him and throttle him.
Biden behaved like a mouse, could barely get up the gumption to get a word in edgewise and seemed incapable of raising his voice to audible levels. And sometimes he was whispering and muttering to himself under his breath while Trump continued to rant.
I feel so sorry for all Americans that these two are the best candidates that USA can produce. But I still hope that Biden is elected because even if he is quiet spoken rather than brash, at least when he does speak that man has a human heart and he has a better sense of realism. I think if Trump gets elected again the entire USA will be a done for goner on the world stage within 4 years and make the rest of the world combined into USA's enemy.
Unbelievable!
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That is the concern with Trump being re-elected. He has been such a disaster on a national and international level. Re-election will signal to him that he can cause 10 times as much damage has he has done in the last 4 years.
Well ..... I liked it that at least Joe had enough gumption to say "Will you shut up, man."
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