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I'm surprised there isn't a source in English that is accurate. What about sources in French?
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Originally Posted by Acajack
Equalization is funded by all federal taxpayers in Canada. As a six-figure earner in Quebec I pay more into the Canadian equalization pot than someone who works minimum wage at Timmies in Alberta.
It's true that the "have" provinces like Alberta (for decades) don't get any, while the "have nots" (Quebec and 6-7 others) do, but it's not as simple as you're making it out to be.
The Alberta government doesn't write a cheque out to the Quebec government every year.
And equalization only represents a relatively small fraction of Quebec government revenues anyway.
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Originally Posted by Natnasci
Quebec and four other provinces. Manitoba, Nova Scotia, PEI, and New Brunswick.
Alberta was a have not province in 1957!
Equalization payments are not understood by a lot of people. Politicians, especially as of late, in Alberta have pushed a false narrative.
How is it complicated? I ask genuinely.
We pay money to a province that is creating a separate nation. Correct?
I am just about the furthest thing from a Republican American that you could imagine.
I stand by what I said about the UN's human rights body, which has members on it like China, Russia, Pakistan, Somalia, India, the Philippines (ever hear of Duterte?)...
Current Quebec politics look a lot like Donald Trump politics. Is that fair to state?
I'm surprised there isn't a source in English that is accurate. What about sources in French?
The Gazette is not reliable because it practises activist journalism for the anglo community. It's their right to do so but as I said... not the best source.
We pay money to a province that is creating a separate nation. Correct?
Incorrect. We (that is, Albertans, and I am one) pay our taxes to the federal government, which then apportions it out among the provinces that need equalization payments. Equalization is just one of the federal government's expenses: the federal civil service, the military, overseas embassies and consulates, the RCMP, customs and border officers, and so on and so on, are other federal government expenses. No individual knows where their individual tax dollars go, given the vast responsibilities of the federal government.
Up above, Acajack very correctly said, "The Alberta government doesn't write a cheque out to the Quebec government every year." Neither does Ontario, Newfoundland, BC, or Saskatchewan. Individual taxpayers in all those provinces pay their taxes to the federal government, to be distributed as the federal government sees fit, in accordance with the federal government's constitutional powers. At any rate, the have-provinces do not, through their provincial governments, pay anything directly to Quebec. Or, for that matter, to PEI, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, or New Brunswick; all of which also receive equalization payments.
Last edited by ChevySpoons; 11-17-2021 at 11:53 PM..
Incorrect. We (that is, Albertans, and I am one) pay our taxes to the federal government, which then apportions it out among the provinces that need equalization payments. Equalization is just one of the federal government's expenses: the federal civil service, the military, overseas embassies and consulates, the RCMP, customs and border officers, and so on and so on, are other federal government expenses. No individual knows where their individual tax dollars go, given the vast responsibilities of the federal government.
Up above, Acajack very correctly said, "The Alberta government doesn't write a cheque out to the Quebec government every year." Neither does Ontario, Newfoundland, BC, or Saskatchewan. Individual taxpayers in all those provinces pay their taxes to the federal government, to be distributed as the federal government sees fit, in accordance with the federal government's constitutional powers. At any rate, the have-provinces do not, through their provincial governments, pay anything directly to Quebec. Or, for that matter, to PEI, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, or New Brunswick; all of which also receive equalization payments.
And further to this; whatever formulaic calculation is used, it came about due to Provincial agreement.
All provinces should have had the foresight to consider the possibility that one day they might be contributing to another's coffers in direct contradiction or competition to their own economic plans and either signed on or off at that time.
One could micro-dissect this to infinity, whereas: why should Ontario allow money garnered through taxation to flow to PEI - both provinces grow potatoes. Why should money flow west when the Niagara valley is a wine producer in competition with Kelowna?
If considering/using the Loony in a purely financial arena; why should a little thing like an obsession with language laws be the sole measure of what's chosen to upset the 'familial harmony' applecart?
In summation, I think the whole thing doesn't go far enough and should take into consideration things like natural disasters such as "mad cow disease" and yes; even floods of biblical proportions. Why should recompense assistance for regional disasters rely upon the charitable feelings of Ottawa at the time of happenstance?
And further to this; whatever formulaic calculation is used, it came about due to Provincial agreement.
All provinces should have had the foresight to consider the possibility that one day they might be contributing to another's coffers in direct contradiction or competition to their own economic plans and either signed on or off at that time.
One could micro-dissect this to infinity, whereas: why should Ontario allow money garnered through taxation to flow to PEI - both provinces grow potatoes. Why should money flow west when the Niagara valley is a wine producer in competition with Kelowna?
If considering/using the Loony in a purely financial arena; why should a little thing like an obsession with language laws be the sole measure of what's chosen to upset the 'familial harmony' applecart?
In summation, I think the whole thing doesn't go far enough and should take into consideration things like natural disasters such as "mad cow disease" and yes; even floods of biblical proportions. Why should recompense assistance for regional disasters rely upon the charitable feelings of Ottawa at the time of happenstance?
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Why should money flow west when the Niagara valley is a wine producer in competition with Kelowna? 
