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Including Québec in Latin America is a popular concept with Latin Americans, and unpopular among Québécois. "Latin" and "Latin America" are nebulous concepts. When coined, it was intended to distinguish and oppose, roughly, North and South America based on linguistic differences.
What nonsense. The term Latin America was coined by a Frenchmen with ambitions to influence (or re-conquer) the ex-Spanish empire after he conquered Spain. No prizes for guessing who.
It’s neither popular or unpopular, just fact. As stated previously Latin is a language and America is a geographic entity. Doesn’t take rocket science to follow the “technical” linguistic equation. Your comment denotes more of a superiority complex more than anything else. As with others in this thread.
French along with Portuguese and Spanish are Romance languages that branched off from it's Latin roots back when France was under the Roman Empire. Portugal and Spain also share similar status as Latinate nations and former part of Rome, can we thus say that French speaking Canada is Latin American?
I don't think so. It's just a part of Canada, a country which is made up of people from all nations and languages, some of whom speak French. There are countries in Oceania, Asia, and the Middle East that have very large numbers of natives that are francophones, so if you're going by the language spoken does that mean those people would be considered to be Latin Asians just because they speak French? Again, I don't think so.
I don't think so. It's just a part of Canada, a country which is made up of people from all nations and languages, some of whom speak French. There are countries in Oceania, Asia, and the Middle East that have very large numbers of natives that are francophones, so if you're going by the language spoken does that mean those people would be considered to be Latin Asians just because they speak French? Again, I don't think so.
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But do they have French heritage or is it an imposed language? Most of a time French is secondary to a set of native languages.
The difference between that and most countries in the Americas aside from most non-Spanish speaking Caribbean islands, Bolivia, Peru and possibly Dominican Republic is that over 50% are speaking the Latin based language their forebearers have always spoken for a milenia. There was no imposition but a continuation for the bulk of the population.
Not to mention those countries in Africa or Asia have their own religions and Catholicism is nowhere near as traditionally predominant.
A lot of the assessment from people comes out of the ignorance of the heterogeneity of Latin America and a view of exclusion and superiority that is the blunt truth.
I don't think any of that is applicable to Canada.
For some Canadians the language they speak is due to their heritage or partial-heritage stemming from a few hundred years ago and I believe of those people, if they live in Quebec they might call themselves Quebecois and if they don't live in Quebec or don't possess the heritage they might be called French Canadians. But for many Canadians the French language is an imposed language and for many Canadians both French and English are imposed languages for them. If they are First Nations people with native languages of their own but are speaking French or English because it's an imposed language does that make them Latin Americans or Teutonic Americans because they speak French or English?
Look, the question that was asked was "Is French Canada technically Latin American?" with the reason given for the question being because French Canadians (presumably) all willingly speak French which is one of the Latin romance languages. It's a nit-picky reason, so I would ask, Latin American like who? and then my answer would be, no, it is not technically Latin American. Not any more so than people who live in Manitoba are Russian Americans and all the people in Canada who speak English (imposed or not) are all Teutonic Americans because English is a Germanic language and all Germanic languages are Teutonic languages the same way as romance languages are all Latin languages.
So enough of the technical nit-picking. They're all just Canadians because that's the nation they live in regardless of the roots of the languages they speak or the name of the continent that Canada sits on. Any other appellations that they choose to attach to the word "Canadian" is done because of their ethnic roots and heritage that they or their ancestors came from, it's not because of the one or more languages they speak.
So enough of the technical nit-picking. They're all just Canadians because that's the nation they live in regardless of the roots of the languages they speak or the name of the continent that Canada sits on.
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There are many in Quebec that would have objections to that. Many Quebecois do consider themselves a distinct nation from Canada and would vehemently reject being called Canadian. Even Blanchet brought this up in the last federal debate.
As far as Quebecois identifying as Laitno, I don't see this idea gaining wide acceptance.
A lot of the assessment from people comes out of the ignorance of the heterogeneity of Latin America and a view of exclusion and superiority that is the blunt truth.
For some it is insulting to suggest that Anglo Canada and USA are extremely similar, but it is often the same ones who believe that Mexico and Argentina are the same.
For some it is insulting to suggest that Anglo Canada and USA are extremely similar, but it is often the same ones who believe that Mexico and Argentina are the same.
There is definitely far more divergence between Argentina (a country of predominantly Spanish, Italian and French ancestry) to Mexico (a predominantly Mestizo country whose Native American component is Completely made up of Meso-American groups that never existed in the Southern cone) than British Columbia and Washington state, let’s get that clear first of all.
Second of all this isn’t about being insulting but an ignorant, ill informed perception of reality.
French chefs walking the streets of Bogotá say how they feel they’re back in northern France, Belgium, Holland, England or US. Minute 5:10 - 5:45.
Somehow that million miles lessens when people actually step foot in a place and realise the true reality and not their second hand perception.
Using cherry pick anecdotal pieces evidences only give unlikely/absurd connections. Note that the protagonist in the video really says that the red bricks endemic in Bogota reminded him of Belgium. He didn't say that Bogota is like a city in Northern France, Belgium or Holland. Making that statement would as absurd as saying that Canada is like China because there's a lot of Chinese live in Vancouver.
Using cherry pick anecdotal pieces evidences only give unlikely/absurd connections. Note that the protagonist in the video really says that the red bricks endemic in Bogota reminded him of Belgium. He didn't say that Bogota is like a city in Northern France, Belgium or Holland. Making that statement would as absurd as saying that Canada is like China because there's a lot of Chinese live in Vancouver.
Wow. Look how vehemently you reject the notion - there’s definitely an undercurrent there.
So what if it’s anecdotal? When thousands of anecdotes come together to say the same thing and more-so when that person is from the nation he or she is referencing it constitutes a reality or at least a reality for people with real life experience of the place/subject matter. I can show you thousands of references of British people saying stuff like “am I in Manchester, no it’s Bogotá” in thousands upon thousands of instagram posts or YouTube videos but I won’t diverge the thread.
Also Buenos Aires looks more like Paris than Montreal ever has and Argentina has around 6 million people of French descent, two thirds of the population of Quebec. It’s a tired notion that Latina America is anywhere near a monolithic culture or entity as an argument to Quebec’s complete opposition to be labeled as part of Amérique Latine. “We’re so different from ‘Latin American’ culture” (whatever that is), “a million miles away in fact” - Please!
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