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Old 01-24-2022, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Which immigrant table do you like best?
The international smorgasbord tables at the all-you-can-eat China Kitchen restaurant.

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Old 01-24-2022, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Most Jamaicans settle in Ontario. Only a few thousand here in BC. I personally don't know any.

Filipinos though, I do. I would say they are also good at integrating.
Probably due to location. Jamaica is on this side of Canada, albeit a thousand+ miles south. The Philippines are closer to that side.

A Jamaican nurse came to the house just before Christmas. She told us how she made a bunch of rum cakes for friends and family.
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Old 01-25-2022, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Let's not forget that Canada actively markets itself internationally as an immigration destination where only an extremely minimal level of integration to the host society is required.

As such it's not impossible that a decent share of the newcomers we attract will be people with less of an interest in starting anew with a new national-cultural identity, and who instead are keen on retaining the old country's ways while taking up residence and citizenship here.
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Old 01-25-2022, 09:41 AM
 
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Let's not forget that Canada actively markets itself internationally as an immigration destination where only an extremely minimal level of integration to the host society is required.

As such it's not impossible that a decent share of the newcomers we attract will be people with less of an interest in starting anew with a new national-cultural identity, and who instead are keen on retaining the old country's ways while taking up residence and citizenship here.
Not impossible??? That's exactly what happens in many cases. Even Stevie Wonder could see that.
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Old 01-25-2022, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Not impossible??? That's exactly what happens in many cases. Even Stevie Wonder could see that.
Well, yeah. I was trying to be diplomatic!
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Old 01-25-2022, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Canada
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What need is there for diplomacy? It's not needed. Canada sells itself as a MULTI-cultural country and that means it's only natural that immigrants are going to see it as a new home where they can retain their traditional ways that they're comfortable with while taking up residence and citizenship and start new lives for themselves. There is nothing wrong with that now any more so than when the very first immigrants set foot on this land and brought their traditional ways with them. If they had not brought their traditional ways with them back then they would not have survived in the new land and the same holds true now. It's not possible for anyone to start a new life as a blank slate.

There are no laws in Canada that says new immigrants must all become clones of clones of clones of the immigrants that came before them. There are no laws that say that certain groups of people are not allowed to have more close-knit communities than certain other groups or not allowed to integrate more easily than some other groups.

There are also no laws that say people of certain ethnic groups must accept invasion and inclusion of resentful strangers with chips on their shoulders who are angry because they haven't been as successful in their endeavours as the certain other ethnic groups have been. That goes both ways, for both the new people to the country who are just getting settled in and for those people who have already been settled here for a long time. If the late comer Latinos in a given area are resentful because the long time Sikh residents in that area are more industrious, prosperous and successful with stronger community and greater numbers than the Latinos have then instead of acting resentful it's up to the Latinos to emulate what the Sikhs have done to gain similar success for their own Latino community. Success doesn't rub off due to proximity and it doesn't get handed out on a silver platter. It has to be worked for.

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Old 01-25-2022, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I am not saying any of this is good or bad.

Just laying out the inevitable outcomes of Canada's immigration and multicultural policies, in response to questions about why Canadian society is evolving the way it is.

Other countries may have more assimilationist policies or a higher expectation in terms of efforts to integrate.

Someone could I suppose do an entire university degree studying which ones are most or least successful.
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Old 01-25-2022, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Canada
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It's not possible for anyone to start a new life as a blank slate.
Wrong, many of us actually have to. I did. There was NO other people of my own cultural or ethnic group around where I moved here.




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There are also no laws that say people of certain ethnic groups must accept invasion and inclusion of resentful strangers with chips on their shoulders who are angry because they haven't been as successful in their endeavours as the certain other ethnic groups have been. That goes both ways, for both the new people to the country who are just getting settled in and for those people who have already been settled here for a long time. If the late comer Latinos in a given area are resentful because the long time Sikh residents in that area are more industrious, prosperous and successful with stronger community and greater numbers than the Latinos have then instead of acting resentful it's up to the Latinos to emulate what the Sikhs have done to gain similar success for their own Latino community. Success doesn't rub off due to proximity and it doesn't get handed out on a silver platter. It has to be worked for.
Why are you bringing Latinos into this? Anyway since you brought up, Latinos are doing just fine and are not resentful towards anyone here. I think we assimilate better than most here in Canada actually. We are even more open to other groups than others are. Statistics actually prove this. Thank you for proving what I often suspected and that people think poorly of Latinos on here. God forbid we ever follow Sikhs examples of being so closed off, greedy and religious zealots.....On second thought Maybe you're right, we should follow SIkhs and stop caring about white Canadians. Specially such angry and resentful Canadians as yourself.


As far as I know Latinos have never put a bomb on a Canadian air plane.

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Old 01-25-2022, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I am not saying any of this is good or bad.

Just laying out the inevitable outcomes of Canada's immigration and multicultural policies, in response to questions about why Canadian society is evolving the way it is.
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Well, yeah. I was trying to be diplomatic!
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Luis, you should know that in the 2020s we're not supposed to say that certain groups are better at integrating than others!
Sure you are!

But you mean assimilation, not integration I think.
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Old 01-25-2022, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Luis, you should know that in the 2020s we're not supposed to say that certain groups are better at integrating than others!
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I have said it.

What I haven't agreed to was this.

" But what exactly makes Indian immigrants better than others? "

Immigrants shouldn't be just judged on how well and quickly they integrate.

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