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Old 07-30-2022, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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In the very least they may split the vote. More options, more competition the better.
Depends on who you ask. Doug Ford is Premier of Ontario because the NDP and Liberal vote is splintered. More Ontarians are left of centre and voted for the NDP/Liberals combined but because of this splinter - the Cons are in power.
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Old 07-30-2022, 10:32 AM
 
Location: B.C., Canada
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Announced earlier this week: Centrists to launch Forward, new third US political party

The official launch will be in September.
Good luck to the new 3rd party, I hope they get avalanches of support.
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Old 07-30-2022, 11:00 AM
 
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Maybe a more accurate statement would be banning typical non-hunting type firearms.

Everything else, the main purpose of said firearm is either for military / law enforcement purposes. Therefore I call it assault. Not hunting.
Half the people I know hunt with an AR15 type rifle, even for deer. The deer here in Texas are generally small, and an AR15 with the appropriate bullet works fine. AR15 type rifles in .300 Blackout are great for hunting feral hogs, especially with a suppressor and infrared scope for night hunting. The rifles are also perfect for coyotes, small varmints, and other pests. They also can be tossed into a typical ranch vehicle and bounced around with no damage. Rain and snow don't bother them either.

Bolt action rifles were originally developed for military purposes.
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Old 07-30-2022, 12:31 PM
 
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Maybe a more accurate statement would be banning typical non-hunting type firearms.

Everything else, the main purpose of said firearm is either for military / law enforcement purposes. Therefore I call it assault. Not hunting.

I get that the gun debate is very divisive, even up in Canada. We spent a ridiculous amount of $$$ on the gun registry, that to my knowledge isn't exactly working well.

We run across the same old arguments like "people kill people, not guns", "anything can be used to kill people, I can kill run you over with a car"... etc etc.

It's a commoner's way to rationalize gun ownership. What they don't or refuse to acknowledge is that the only reason a gun is made is to destroy whatever it's aimed at. Be that a woodent target, or human beings. The only reason we make cars is to bring people or items from point A to point B. If we stopped making guns, I'm pretty sure we will survive. If we stopped making cars I'm pretty sure our economies would collapse.

The truth is that both sides will never agree. In the real world extreme views never work out. We need to get together and compromise and try our best to minimize the harms in our life.

Yes, well said HodgePodge!
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Old 07-30-2022, 12:36 PM
 
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Announced earlier this week: Centrists to launch Forward, new third US political party



The official launch will be in September.

Hallelujah!!!
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Old 07-30-2022, 06:16 PM
 
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Half the people I know hunt with an AR15 type rifle, even for deer. The deer here in Texas are generally small, and an AR15 with the appropriate bullet works fine. AR15 type rifles in .300 Blackout are great for hunting feral hogs, especially with a suppressor and infrared scope for night hunting. The rifles are also perfect for coyotes, small varmints, and other pests. They also can be tossed into a typical ranch vehicle and bounced around with no damage. Rain and snow don't bother them either.

Bolt action rifles were originally developed for military purposes.
The only problem with AR15 is how easy it is the obtain mags that can hold greater then 5 rounds. And five rounds is the Canadian legal maximum.
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Old 07-30-2022, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Interesting and sobering read. Thanks for posting it.

Airports use technology to scan baggage. It is an added layer of security. Crossing a land border however the only security check is via a human agent. Sure they run your passport through a DB to see if you have any warrants or records and ask you questions, look for 'signs' etc that your visit is suspicious or that you are doing something illegal - but that is it.

Of course, implementing a scanning technology at land borders would be expensive, but it would layer on something more than just the human element.
Scanning technology at land borders exists, but from what I can tell, only going into the US, not coming into Canada.

This article is a year and a half old, but talks about the US ramping up the amount of vehicles scanned from 1 percent to 100 percent.

https://www.joc.com/regulation-polic..._20210107.html
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Old 08-02-2022, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Well, yes it would be an additional element to what's there now but, that still leaves the greatest single avenue proven for the smuggling of tobacco products being native reservations on the border.

I was privy to that situation reaching epic proportions during the 80's and there was not one thing the Canadian authorities could effectively do about it.

A story; Another local union president for the City of Laval old location of Imperial Tobacco was busily refurbishing a house on the south shore. His and his wife's routine was to relax on the porch after a day of drywall/mudding/sanding with a cocktail before driving back into Mnt'l.

They were often treated to the sounds of huge H/P speed boats running cases of Cigarettes across the river just after dusk. One evening just as the convoy started up - a helicopter flew low over their house with it's searchlight targeting the leaders of the group of boats with other law enforcement approaching with a variety of their own boats.

The loud hailer of the helicopter was ordering the natives to stop and allow boarding parties to approach them - and - of course - they were ignored. They heard the snap of a few rifle warning shots being fired to force the issue - to which this fellow told me, one of the native's craft opened up with what sounded to him with his ex-military experience to be a .50 cal. machine gun. There was no attempt to hit the helicopter with the every third tracer rounds sailing well over his house and disappearing in the distance.

Searchlights off. Copter turned and beat feet out of there. All LEO craft turned around and ran for shore.

That was the end of that. After that episode the high speed engines were once again a fairly routine sound without any challenge.

Guns are coming across that border in those semi trucks by the thousands, either hidden in loads or sequestered by the driver's in any one of the literally thousands of hidey-holes and there's not a dang thing we can do about it with the flow of commerce being sacrosanct and the "Freedoms of Truckers" being such a cause-celebre today.

Imaging stopping every trucker to tear his tractor apart behind the dashboard and under the hood to search for a single semi-auto 9mm or .45 that would easily bring a $1K payday to the driver. You can just hear the strident "freedom" squalling now were they to be targeted for special attention as they reasonably should be!
That is pretty depressing. Though they do put a significant amount of effort into detecting drugs at the border, and sneakers you haven't paid duty on.
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Old 08-02-2022, 07:42 AM
 
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The problem in the US is trust.
The citizens with guns don't trust the government to be forth coming with gun laws and still back the 2ed Amendment and the goverment just doesn't trust its people.
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Old 08-02-2022, 09:05 AM
 
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The problem is that those people are nutjobs.
Oh boy...
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